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Old 07-12-2016, 04:34 AM
 
Location: Boston, MA
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Another stupid thread about Black people and stupid labels that mainstream media places on people.

I want some of this free money the government is giving to Black people. I guess i am so called middle class who prides himself on being a progressive person and I have some conservative values and some liberal values. Most of my Black friends can say the same. This idea that Black have to fit into a box that mainstream media tells us we have to fit in to is why many Blacks like myself dont respect the Republican party. Come at us with some real issues and straight talk and you will get our respect.
Like being tough on crime? Historically that has been the way to get the black vote but considering what's been going on lately, I think that is on hold.
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Old 07-12-2016, 04:48 AM
 
Location: Phila & NYC
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Probably. But they have reached the middle class because they are Conservative, not the other way around....


Now, I would probably be called a racist if I asked the question "don't most Liberal blacks live in poverty?"
Putting labels aside, based on voting patterns of blacks and the fact that only a small percentage vote Republican, an overwhelming majority of blacks in all income classes top to bottom lean left. That includes those in sports and entertainment that are members of the millionaires club.
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Old 07-12-2016, 05:07 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
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Like being tough on crime? Historically that has been the way to get the black vote but considering what's been going on lately, I think that is on hold.


Tough on crime has been a code word for "tough on black people" historically. Tough on crime in the 90s basically meant "tough on crack because black people may have it".

I do consider myself a conservative. But many many black conservatives just end up becoming apologist and mouthpieces for the status quo. And there is too much intellectual dishonesty in the status quo in general. This is why I don't really promote black republicans or conservatives in general.


The bottomline is cops do suck. Criminal records do not give cops the right to shoot people. You cannot shoot innocent citizens period. Republicans aren't actually conservative, they're pro government. Most black conservatives aren't capitalist.

Another thing I don't like about black conservatives is the utter lack of solutions. They basically make all of their money "calling black people out". And it's enough to get praise from white people who don't like black people. But I don't hear conservatives actually proposing solutions. Like at all. And if a solutions is proposed it's some abstract crap like "don't commit crimes", "go to college". Like really? My ideas may be very radical but I am coming up with ideas.



And that is probably why many blacks just flock to the democrat platform. Democrats are at least coming up with some sort of plan. It's a terrible terrible plan. But a plan is better than no plan.


This is why as black conservatives we have to get beyond calling black people out. It doesn't work. At the end of the day the image of black thugs impact all black people. And it is for us more successful and politically mature black people to start actually come up with some plans.
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Old 07-12-2016, 09:06 AM
 
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Like being tough on crime? Historically that has been the way to get the black vote but considering what's been going on lately, I think that is on hold.
What makes you think that?

I would love to see criminals get life sentences for murder with the possibility of the death penalty.

Locking people up for speeding tickets and profiling people on skin color and hiring police officers who can't connect with our community doesn't work.
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Old 07-12-2016, 09:18 AM
 
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Nope, we assume they are the same as everyone else.

Democrats continually state that they are not.
"We conservatives believe that blacks are smart and can blah, blah, blah, "

"We also believe that we can teach our dogs over 100 commands, and blah, blah, blah..."

"We also believe that you can train dolphins to blah, blah, blah...."

Anyway...
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