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Old 07-12-2016, 10:42 AM
 
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I've done it. I've figured out the ultimate plan.

Make a traffic stop quota for cops....but in reverse. For any city or county agency....they start the year with a 0 allowance on traffic or pedestrian stops. Each crime that's committed in their jurisdiction allows them a # of stops for that year. An allowance.

Murder = 1000 stops.
Rape = 500 stops
Armed robbery = 250 stops
Shoplifting = 25 stops

And so on.

If BlackLivesMatter wants the stops to end....end the crime. Here it is. Cops start at 0. YOUR OWN BEHAVIOR will determine what cops can and can't do.

Deal?
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Old 07-12-2016, 10:43 AM
 
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Behave and follow the law.....cops won't stop anyone.
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Old 07-12-2016, 11:01 AM
 
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Behave and follow the law.....cops won't stop anyone.
Not exactly full proof...

If you don't commit any of the 4 mentioned categories of crime in the OP - people can freely break traffic laws... because the cops would have no "credits" to perform traffic stops.


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This was my idea from yesterday.
If local police forces get their money through state and local income taxes, that becomes a problem when many in the community don't have a regular job... or they work below the radar without W-2 forms. So that short cuts funding for the police. Factor in the millions of illegals in the country that don't pay taxes, yet receive benefits from being protected by the police. It makes total sense that police forces are short of cash.

Maybe the tax system needs to change so that instead of taking income through employment wages... people are taxed on a slight progressive scale and they pay direct regardless of their employment situation.

Also - if we want to continue to take tax money from wages - that makes the country's policy on jobs much more important. All of these jobs that are sent overseas... that's tax money that does not get to the police station - yet they are still expected to do the same quality job.
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Old 07-12-2016, 11:08 AM
 
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Behave and follow the law.....cops won't stop anyone.
That's just the not how it works. Cops often stop people for supposed traffic violations because they're looking for something else to bust them for. You don't actually have to have committed a violation.
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Old 07-12-2016, 11:16 AM
 
Location: Madison, WI
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I'm a fan of civil disobedience and not doing as you're told just because it's the law, so I'm not too fond of incentivizing strict obedience to the "authorities".

I also don't think this would go over well with law enforcement. They wouldn't want their job security threatened like that. They want a reason to increase their budget, or possibly keep it the same, but definitely don't want anyone getting the idea to cut their budget.

That's how it is with all state programs and departments...always growing, and throwing a fit when funding is cut.
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Old 07-12-2016, 11:16 AM
 
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I support the Dallas Police Chief's idea. BLM members should join the police forces in their communities and then they can make sure that their communities are "properly" policed and can make a difference as role models to kids in the community while serving and protecting!
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Old 07-12-2016, 11:21 AM
 
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I'm a fan of civil disobedience and not doing as you're told just because it's the law, so I'm not too fond of incentivizing strict obedience to the "authorities".

I also don't think this would go over well with law enforcement. They wouldn't want their job security threatened like that. They want a reason to increase their budget, or possibly keep it the same, but definitely don't want anyone getting the idea to cut their budget.

That's how it is with all state programs and departments...always growing, and throwing a fit when funding is cut.
It won't affect their budget. Despite leftist claims....VERY few PDs actually benefit from tickets.

In my state....80% of all ticket money is taken by the state for road maintenence. Other 20%, by law, goes to fund the court and jail. Cops see ZERO dollars per ticket.

That's how most places are.

The "revenue" angle is mostly liberal boogeyman legend.
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Old 07-12-2016, 11:57 AM
 
Location: Madison, WI
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It won't affect their budget. Despite leftist claims....VERY few PDs actually benefit from tickets.

In my state....80% of all ticket money is taken by the state for road maintenence. Other 20%, by law, goes to fund the court and jail. Cops see ZERO dollars per ticket.

That's how most places are.

The "revenue" angle is mostly liberal boogeyman legend.
I'll believe you on that. I was also thinking along the lines of downsizing departments. If crime drops, people start questioning whether we need so many cops.
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Old 05-29-2019, 09:55 AM
 
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I've done it. I've figured out the ultimate plan.

Make a traffic stop quota for cops....but in reverse. For any city or county agency....they start the year with a 0 allowance on traffic or pedestrian stops. Each crime that's committed in their jurisdiction allows them a # of stops for that year. An allowance.

Murder = 1000 stops.
Rape = 500 stops
Armed robbery = 250 stops
Shoplifting = 25 stops

And so on.

If BlackLivesMatter wants the stops to end....end the crime. Here it is. Cops start at 0. YOUR OWN BEHAVIOR will determine what cops can and can't do.

Deal?
You need some number (5 maybe?) for every at-fault accident. Otherwise there is no accountability for bad driving...
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Old 05-29-2019, 10:07 AM
 
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I'll believe you on that. I was also thinking along the lines of downsizing departments. If crime drops, people start questioning whether we need so many cops.
If it wasnt for drug laws, police today would have a hard time trying to stay relevant!


Granted there is SOME crime besides drug and drug related...but its definitely not enough to justify current staffing levels and budget demands (not even close), However I do not believe we should be obeying drug laws, but thats nother thread!
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