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Old 07-13-2016, 07:22 PM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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take a poll: Dems corrupt =yes-- GOP corrupt =yes--
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Old 07-13-2016, 07:45 PM
 
Location: New Orleans, La. USA
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Spare me the "but..but..but BOTH parties are corrupt" meme. It's come full circle for them. It's easy to say as someone on the right, but NOW that you've seen how they treated Bernie and blackmailed him into supporting Clinton, you can see their corruption knows no bounds.

At least many Republicans are repudiating Trump; Democrats are diving all in for $hillary. Democrats aren't the brightest crayons in the box.
Corruption is things like GW Bush paying back his corporate campaign backers with $2.5 trillion dollars in CEO tax cuts and $1.2 trillion dollars in corporate federal subsidies.
Bush Tax Cuts After 2002: June 2002 CTJ Analysis
RealClearMarkets - Do Crony Handouts Have a Stranglehold On the GOP?

Or Halliburton CEO Dick Cheney giving his oil company campaign contributors billions of dollars in underhanded and unethical tax cuts.
Big Oil's Influence in Washington . NOW | PBS

Or corporate CEO Mitt Romney trying to handout $6.6 trillion dollars in corporate tax cuts and $2.1 trillion dollars to defense corporations.
Romney's Economic Plan Includes $6.6 Trillion Tax Cut For The Rich And Corporations | ThinkProgress
Defense spending to spike by $2.1 trillion under Romney - May. 10, 2012

And corruption is billionaire Donald Trump planning to hand out $12 trillion dollars in tax cuts, and giving the lowest earning 60% of Americans 13% of the tax cuts, and giving the richest 20% of Americans 70% of the tax cuts.
Donald Trump's Tax Plan Would Cost $12 Trillion | CTJReports

The Clinton's being rich and Bernie not being stupid enough to support tax cuts for the rich is not corruption (acts like those listed above are corruption.)
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Old 07-13-2016, 07:51 PM
 
Location: Toronto, ON
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How hard would it be to repeal the 12th amendment and to drastically reduce campaign financing? Non-Americans are completely shocked at how undemocratic the electoral process is for US presidential elections. Just an honest question form a non-American.
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Old 07-13-2016, 07:55 PM
 
Location: New Orleans, La. USA
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How hard would it be to repeal the 12th amendment and to drastically reduce campaign financing? Just an honest question form a non-American.
It would be extremely hard because about 50% of Americans are republicans, and republicans oppose campaign finance reform.

Senate blocks campaign finance amendment - POLITICO
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Old 07-13-2016, 08:58 PM
 
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Spare me the "but..but..but BOTH parties are corrupt" meme. It's come full circle for them. It's easy to say as someone on the right, but NOW that you've seen how they treated Bernie and blackmailed him into supporting Clinton, you can see their corruption knows no bounds.

At least many Republicans are repudiating Trump; Democrats are diving all in for $hillary. Democrats aren't the brightest crayons in the box.
It's not that the Republicans are less willong to be corrupt. They just don't have the stones to support a blatantly corrupt candidate. The Democrats are a more loyal party, probably because they know their media hacks will cover for them.
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Old 07-13-2016, 09:11 PM
 
Location: ATX-HOU
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It's not that the Republicans are less willong to be corrupt. They just don't have the stones to support a blatantly corrupt candidate. The Democrats are a more loyal party, probably because they know their media hacks will cover for them.
I keep asking this.... But what exactly has Trump done that makes him have more integrity? Or be less corruptible?
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Old 07-13-2016, 09:40 PM
 
Location: Jawjah
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Spare me the "but..but..but BOTH parties are corrupt" meme. It's come full circle for them. It's easy to say as someone on the right, but NOW that you've seen how they treated Bernie and blackmailed him into supporting Clinton, you can see their corruption knows no bounds.

At least many Republicans are repudiating Trump; Democrats are diving all in for $hillary. Democrats aren't the brightest crayons in the box.
LOL, the leader of GOP in Congress endorses Trump one moment and the next says Trump doesn't represent our values at all and you say the D party is most corrupt?
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Old 07-13-2016, 10:46 PM
 
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I keep asking this.... But what exactly has Trump done that makes him have more integrity? Or be less corruptible?
One could argue that he is less corruptible because he is already a billionaire. As for more integrity, we know hillary's integrity is hovering around absolute zero, so that's the constant. Trump may or may be less corruptible and have more integrity, but it's impossible to know for sure.

But what he has going for him is that there is at least a chance he has integrity. We know hillary doesnt.
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Old 07-13-2016, 11:04 PM
 
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Very true.
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Old 07-13-2016, 11:05 PM
 
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spare me the "but..but..but both parties are corrupt" meme. It's come full circle for them. It's easy to say as someone on the right, but now that you've seen how they treated bernie and blackmailed him into supporting clinton, you can see their corruption knows no bounds.

At least many republicans are repudiating trump; democrats are diving all in for $hillary. Democrats aren't the brightest crayons in the box.
If you say so...OK.
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