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Old 07-14-2016, 05:58 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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Research, historically, has also shown earnings (and other indicators of economic well-being) among Black migrants that, while not competitive with national (White American) norms, nevertheless, surpass the earnings of native-born African Americans. …

https://www.questia.com/library/jour...-socioeconomic

This is another great article that compares Africans and Black Americans. If you cannot see why black Americans react the way they do you are blind.

How African-Americans and African Immigrants Differ - The Globalist
Your first article compares African Americans and Black Caribbean West Indians.

The second article is about
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a huge chasm between African-Americans and African immigrants in the United States. That chasm has widened over the years. It has caused deep animosity between many African-Americans and their African immigrant cousins.
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The problem stems from deep misconceptions, sometimes fueled by the U.S. media. Astonishingly, many African-Americans believe that Africans are backward and primitive. Some make crude jokes about Africans or do not acknowledge the great contribution Africa has made to the world.
Neither compares earnings of African Americans to immigrants from Africa.

Got something pertinent to your claims?
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Old 07-14-2016, 06:04 PM
 
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Your first article compares African Americans and Black Caribbean West Indians.

The second article is about



Neither compares earnings of African Americans to immigrants from Africa.

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Black Immigrants in U.S. Earning 30% More than U.S. Born Blacks
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Old 07-14-2016, 06:13 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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If true, this is why;

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“A lot of the African . . . immigrants are coming specifically to get an education in the States,” says Andrew McCaskill, senior vice president of global communications at Nielsen.

“High numbers are college-educated, and not only have college degrees, but also masters,” he adds.

McCaskill also says that the black immigrant population in the U.S. has a higher percentage of entrepreneurs, and an increased ability to keep dollars in their own communities.

“They’re creating jobs in their communities, they’re buying products from their entrepreneurs. There typically is a culture of recycling dollars, which contributes greatly to the rising fortunes,” says McCaskill.
African-Americans should learn from them instead of mocking them.http://www.theglobalist.com/african-...grants-differ/
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Old 07-14-2016, 06:16 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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Because Blacks believe the crap that Democrats feed them.
Democrats supported slavery now they stay in Power by pushing the oppression BS.

Many uneducated Blacks are still in Slavery to the Govt.

Education and work is the key.
Certainly you know that the party positions on race flipped entirely. That's a disingenuous post.

But, if you want to play that game, the Republicans today are the party of the John Birch Society.
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Old 07-14-2016, 06:28 PM
 
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Any ongoing repression of the black community only exists in their heads. There is nothing structural in society that is keeping blacks down. We've had 2 full generations born and raised in an environment of full civil rights. They have had significant preference in the job market and in college admissions due to Affirmative Action. The major media is supportive of black causes. Vast sums have been spent on programs to help lift up the black community. Most cities with major black populations have black mayors, black city councils, black police chiefs, black school superintendents and so forth. City/State/Federal govt spending prioritizes giving contracts to black owned businesses.

What more do they want? If they choose to see themselves as something less than the rest of society, that's their choice. All I ask is that they quit complaining about it. That and quit blaming whites for everything under the sun.
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Old 07-14-2016, 06:31 PM
 
Location: Secure Bunker
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The oppression is perception issue. Many blacks believe they are oppressed and probably see racism where there is none. This is the sad reality that was provocated by slavery and Jim Crow.

In the old days blacks had hope despite not being able to use the bathroom for whites. And now they have lost all hope, they can go anywhere and there are no visible walls to demolish. That Obama won the presidency means nothing.

Yeah, because most of them are totally delusional Leftists victim card dealers. Has nothing to do with slavery. Has everything to do with political power and cash money. They are the product of 50 years of Progressive brain washing.
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Old 07-14-2016, 06:42 PM
 
Location: NY in body, Mayberry in spirit.
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Do you think someone like LeBron James spent his early life crying about oppression? He worked his a** off and, now, no problems.
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No one is arguing the value of hard work. Yes, LeBron James worked his duff off to get where he is. So did Black astrophysicist Neil DeGrasse Tyson. We all understand hard work helps. I'm living proof of that. My father is living proof.

That said, Neil DeGrasse Tyson mentioned that he experienced racism in college. He was never stopped when he went to and from the gym. He was questioned by UT-Austin campus police several times when he went to the physics building.

Neil deGrasse Tyson: The Most Powerful Nerd In The Universe Is Also A Scientific Anomaly : Code Switch : NPR

Being successful from hard work does not negate the existence of racism and bigotry. My father is an engineer with a Master's degree. Didn't stop stuff like being harassed by the police from happening to him. It didn't stop my brother from having to deal with racism when he was in college.

Where do you see in the whole 2 sentences I posted any words that lead you to conclude that I make any claim that racism does not exist? It boggles my mind when just 2 lousy sentences can be twisted around in someone's mind. I CLEARLY was making one point, that LBJ, and obviously many other African Americans, didn't waste their lives complaining about oppression, but worked hard to rise above it. Not one reference to racism or bigotry in my post.

Cmon man, you're a smart dude. No need to make things up to misrepresent a post.

BTW, Tyson, at 58, went to college in the 70's. I would think most people would assume he encountered more racism then as opposed to now. Imagine how much the OP would cry if he was in school back then?(I assume he is a younger man. Could be wrong).
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Old 07-14-2016, 07:08 PM
 
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If true, this is why;



African-Americans should learn from them instead of mocking them.How African-Americans and African Immigrants Differ - The Globalist
If you read the article you will see Africans are not concerned with looking for racism and generally integrate into American neighborhoods that are predominantly white.

In essence the Aficans are more black than American blacks, but have a different perspective because they are not a product of America.

Do you know the difference between a zebra and a horse? The Zebra is fickle, distrustful, aggressive, and with high level of anxiety. The anxiety is so high that Zebras cannot be domesticated. Otoh, horses have less anxiety and can be domesticated.

A zebra is that way because it has to worry about predators 24/7. American blacks are like zebras. They are in a high state of stress due to reasons that are well known. That is why they become aggressive when confronted by the police.
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Old 07-14-2016, 07:10 PM
 
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Any ongoing repression of the black community only exists in their heads. There is nothing structural in society that is keeping blacks down. We've had 2 full generations born and raised in an environment of full civil rights. They have had significant preference in the job market and in college admissions due to Affirmative Action. The major media is supportive of black causes. Vast sums have been spent on programs to help lift up the black community. Most cities with major black populations have black mayors, black city councils, black police chiefs, black school superintendents and so forth. City/State/Federal govt spending prioritizes giving contracts to black owned businesses.

What more do they want? If they choose to see themselves as something less than the rest of society, that's their choice. All I ask is that they quit complaining about it. That and quit blaming whites for everything under the sun.
Read my zebra and horse analogy above.
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Old 07-14-2016, 07:11 PM
 
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You win the most absurd post of the day award. No one has been enslaved in the US for generations. African Americans are oppressed by each other, not by whites, not by the government. Blacks from Africa might do better because they don't whine, cry and make excuses for how poor they're doing.

“there is nothing outside of yourself that can ever enable you to get better, stronger, richer, quicker, or smarter. Everything is within. Everything exists. Seek nothing outside of yourself.”
― Miyamoto Musashi, The Book of Five Rings, 1645 AD
Africans have been blessed to have generations being the majority in their lands, having ties to a homeland, and having their cultures in tact. It makes a difference to know that you can always go back home if you choose. It is a different experience and there is different motivation.

As for African-Americans, Jim Crow ended in the 1960s. There are people who lived during that oppressive time alive today. These are people's parents and grandparents who share their experiences. It is still relatively recent.
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