Can we talk about the fact that there are too many people? (unemployed, minimum wage)

[KonaldDuth]

Something like 8 billion. It'll be 20 billion in a few decades. Already in the U.S., the economy isn't growing enough to keep with the small population growth, and on top of that the population growth means that the cost of land/housing continues to go up, up, up. Then there's the increased commute times, increased competiveness of getting good jobs when almost all of the jobs being created are low-wage or part-time.

[Aquarius37]

You can talk about it, but it's often shunned. Truth is the fact that we are over populated and this Planet is totally disgusting. But people will keep on breeding, cuz that's what they do (out of ignorance)

[waltergulick]

Yeah ask Japan and China how that's worked for them?

As mentioned it is the out of control birth rates of the 3rd world countries that are keeping the world population increasing.

[Chowhound]

America and parts of Europe are fine, it's the third world countries that are in trouble. Japan is actually experiencing a decline in the population if I recall right.

[saltine]

Glad we could help the third world with their infant mortality rates. Unfortunately it is the the lower IQ folks that are multiplying

[godofthunder9010]

Sure you can talk about it but here's the problem.

Let's say you have two equal population groups in any given country. Half of the country is composed of Group A and half by Group B.

Group A "does the right thing" and has no children.

Group B ignores doing the right thing and each family has 10 kids.

Twenty years later, guess whose in control? You guessed it! Group B! Fact is, Group A will go extinct and Group B won't.

[waltergulick]

Originally Posted by KonaldDuth

Something like 8 billion. It'll be 20 billion in a few decades. Already in the U.S., the economy isn't growing enough to keep with the small population growth, and on top of that the population growth means that the cost of land/housing continues to go up, up, up. Then there's the increased commute times, increased competiveness of getting good jobs when almost all of the jobs being created are low-wage or part-time.

It will NOT be 20 billion "in a few decades".

We just hit 7B five years ago, and might hit 8B by 2023-2025 or so.

At our current rate, by the year 2100 we MIGHT be at 14B, assuming no catastrophic event that wipes out a large portion.

[Goinback2011]

Stop feeding and medicating those countries with high birth rates.

Problem solved.

[TristramShandy]

Originally Posted by KonaldDuth

Something like 8 billion. It'll be 20 billion in a few decades. Already in the U.S., the economy isn't growing enough to keep with the small population growth, and on top of that the population growth means that the cost of land/housing continues to go up, up, up. Then there's the increased commute times, increased competiveness of getting good jobs when almost all of the jobs being created are low-wage or part-time.

It won't be 20 billion in a few decades. Population has increased by a billion per every 13 years of late, but people who study this stuff say that we'll peak out in the 2070s at a little over 10 billion. There are already a bunch of countries like Japan, China, Germany, Italy, Russia, etc, who are at negative population growth. The United States would be exactly static if it wasn't for immigration. India and some African countries are still growing greatly, but there will be a limit to that too.

[Mason3000]

The challenge is population has ALWAYS been part of the Progressive platform. In fact that's what "progressivism" is. It's a "progression" towards a better mankind. One where wealthy intellectuals rule the world and poverty is eradicated. Not eradicated, in that everyone is now wealthy, but eradicated in that they eradicate the poor. That's why the godfathers of the progressive movement preached closing of our borders to certain races, forced sterilization of the poor, negative eugenics, abortion and a high minimum wage to keep the poor unemployed, which they thought would deter them from having more kids.

Fast forward to today and progressives still believe in population control, but have been brainwashed into thinking progressive policies are the OPPOSITE of racism, which is why they don't want to touch population control right now because they know it's not White people we're talking about when we talk population control, it's Asians, Africans and Hispanics primarily and that creates an uncomfortable paradox for them. It shouldn't, it just that most progressives are uneducated as to the beginnings of the movement they proudly claim.