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Originally Posted by aquietpath
The Baton Rouge Shooter was in Dallas the day of the shooting, with other BLM protesters. He has many Facebook and Twitter rants promoting BLM.
IM not sure what sources you are looking at, but im looking at the "Cosmo" twitter page and website CNN and NBC refer to. I dont see any affiliation with BLM, only that he agrees black people need to fight back.
By your logic, the Las Vegas couple were both Tea Party members simply because they agreed with the movement.
You are talking about a time when the Democratic Party itself was slip and there were 67 Democratic senators and 247 in the House. The Party had a North South divide as did Republicans(which your side seems to forget)
the civil rights act wasnt Party line, it was North vs South with every single Southern Republican voting against it. At least a couple Southern Democrats voted for it, your side was 0fer. Im not doing that to brag, im saying it because you either didnt know your history, or didnt care and if it was the latter, then it needed to be stated for those who have never looked back at that point in history in detail.
Every single southern republican voting against? You mean out of the few southern Republicans (relatively speaking) in existence? Put things into perspective here. But we don't even have to go that far. Blacks were voting Democrats before the CRA was going to become a reality, and when Southern Democrats filibustered attempts at that and at anti-lynching legislation (I"m talking about decades before the 1964 Act was passed). You don't know your history or don't care.
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Originally Posted by dsjj251
IM not arguing that school choice doesnt help those who can take advantage of it. Im saying that the majority who need it can not access it even when offered to them.
THe republican version of school choice leaves more people worse off than who they help.
And the GOP version of school choice doesn't leave more worse off than not. The GOP version of school choice is very expansive, allowing for many to take advantage of. Firstly, in rural areas, most own cars (to an earlier statement you made) and can drive if need be. Second, to the extent that driving longer distances to utilize such vouchers would be a problem, you'd see less people pulling out of the schools in such areas and, thus, less disruption in those areas. In the inner-cities, however, where actual availability of alternative choice is much greater (in terms of choices within the city), we see much more movement/opportunity. But Democrats, despite knowing this, fight it not because they think its right, but because the unions are threatened by it (and, they are).
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Originally Posted by dsjj251
The problem with your argument is that the number isnt 70/30 Its more like 5/95 and you are condemning that 95 to even worse conditions than what they had before.
As for control. The majority of African Americans live in Republican controlled States. Not Democratic controlled ones, and that goes all the way down to the local level.
And, most actual day to day education policy is set at the local school board level (the state will set general standards, but local boards generally have greater power and have chosen to embrace (in the black communities) destructive policies, including the wholesale embrace of destructive union policies, which has devastated education for black and brown children; contrary to what you write, most southern blacks' education are overseen by Democratic-controlled school boards. This is why black children in BOTH Republican states and in Democratic states are seeing terrible results (in both states, Democrats run the local election boards). If what you wrote/try to imply was true, blacks would've been doing substantially better in the time that Democrats controlled those now "Red" states and would be doing substantially better in Blue states; let's remember that southern states weren't controlled by Republicans to the extent they are now until relatively recently (as in after the 1994 GOP Revolution, with the change becoming more complete after the Tea Party wave, when state legislatures in MS, LA, etc. went GOP for the first time since Reconstruction).
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Originally Posted by dsjj251
Illegal immigration is the act of coming in. She has never supported that.
What she has specifically said she is against is splitting families up and leaving US citizen children to fend for themselves while their parents are deported to their native nation.
IF you embrace policies that encourage such illegal immigration and then also embrace policies that make it much more difficult to deport/track these new illegal arrivals once they have arrived, you support illegal immigration. Period. And she in no way just is against deporting adults of US citizen children. But don't just take my word for it. Here: Hillary Clinton
In an effort to pander to Latino voters, she is against deporting illegal immigrant children, period. You know, the hundreds of thousands who crossed over our border, spurred by news of DAPA, etc., recently? She may have flipped flopped on the issue to come to the position she has now, but the point remains.
School performance generally trends very closely with the socioeconomic makeup of the surrounding community. "Bad" schools (using the definition I think most use) generally have large proportions of low-income minorities. Shifting these students around usually doesn't result in any miraculous increase in performance. Take the "worst" school in your region and let the students all "choose" to attend the "best" school in your region and watch how quickly the latter's performance drops. Now all of those kids that you allowed to escape a "bad" school are once again in a "bad" school.
Troubled schools are a reflection of troubled communities.
But even within troubled communities we've seen the positive impact that true education reform can have. This is why we see success across several educational models adopted by schools like Bedford Academy and the Eagle Academy schools (predominately black schools that cater to poor black families in NYC) and across many charter schools serving the same members of these communities generally. In the case of NYC, the sheer number of public schools allowed to embrace different models has the same effect that a voucher system could have. And one shouldn't expect to see results overnight in every case (or as a general matter). But these are steps in the right direction and we've had success to show for it.
Barry is in a seething rage. The veins in his neck were pulsing at his address about Baton Rouge.
He's lost in the wilderness and can't find his way out. This wasn't how his final year was supposed to be.
He is frustrated that there isn't an ounce of support for his gun control schemes. He's on the wrong side of the BLM nonsense, as well as neglecting law enforcement.
He's handed the law and order moniker to Donald Trump on a silver platter. There's nothing Hillary can do to reclaim any relevance.
The Republican Convention in Cleveland will be a showcase for leftist lawlessness.
Let's hope the city of Cleveland will be able to put down the anarchists that represent the Democratic Party.
The Republican Convention in Cleveland will be a showcase for leftist lawlessness.
The other day one of the talking heads on CNN gave a hint of the game to come. She said any riots at the RNC convention would just prove that a Trump candidacy carries with it the threat of violence wherever Trump campaigns.
Everyone sat there nodding their heads and I'm thinking wtf? These idiots are actually blaming Trump for DNC planned riots using front groups like BLM that are bought and paid for by the Democratic Alliance, a major liberal donor club.
But even within troubled communities we've seen the positive impact that true education reform can have. This is why we see success across several educational models adopted by schools like Bedford Academy and the Eagle Academy schools (predominately black schools that cater to poor black families in NYC) and across many charter schools serving the same members of these communities generally. In the case of NYC, the sheer number of public schools allowed to embrace different models has the same effect that a voucher system could have. And one shouldn't expect to see results overnight in every case (or as a general matter). But these are steps in the right direction and we've had success to show for it.
Unlike Trump who just throws out lines like "school choice is the best, folks" from time-to-time, I've researched this issue extensively. Essentially what happens at the truly "successful" charter schools is that they're almost always cream-skimming the most able and least challenging students. There aren't many of these schools mind you, and their success is often only in relation to other schools that superficially "look" the same, but there's nothing really spectacular going on. Unfortunately, this small percentage of schools, which operates in a fundamentally different way than the urban public schools they're compared with and with which they supposedly compete, are mistakenly held up as a model for improving urban education. These schools definitely improve the fortunes of a lucky few who get away from the riff-raff, but they're not really scalable (and, for what it's worth, don't even have to be charter schools to get that effect).
Wish I could believe you, but time has shown us there are way too many stupid ignorant people out there! and I will leave it at that.
BLM movement itself, is nothing but a hateful vengeful spiteful group, that believes it is acceptable to use violence to solve problems. They lost me right at the front door.
When they commit the acts they do and say the hateful remarks that they do, they are not about wanting to solve the problems. that are going on, but instigate the problems further.
Unlike Trump who just throws out lines like "school choice is the best, folks" from time-to-time, I've researched this issue extensively. Essentially what happens at the truly "successful" charter schools is that they're almost always cream-skimming the most able and least challenging students. There aren't many of these schools mind you, and their success is often only in relation to other schools that superficially "look" the same, but there's nothing really spectacular going on. Unfortunately, this small percentage of schools, which operates in a fundamentally different way than the urban public schools they're compared with and with which they supposedly compete, are mistakenly held up as a model for improving urban education. These schools definitely improve the fortunes of a lucky few who get away from the riff-raff, but they're not really scalable (and, for what it's worth, don't even have to be charter schools to get that effect).
As an initial matter, yes, we've often seen that. But, as the cap on charter schools are lifted (either increased or completely lifted) following the successful first launch models, more and more students who are not in this "gifted" category can and do benefit from these schools. But its not just charter schools (the schools using other admirable approaches that I named in my earlier response are not charter schools and are teaching, to great results, children whom many claimed could never excel). As one who has seen firsthand what proper attention and guidance can do for such children, this doesn't surprise me.
The attack on the federal judge due to nothing else but his heritage was uncalled for (and I say this as someone who is voting for Trump) . . . even he realized that and back off from such language.
And he needs to narrow his calls for stopping Muslim immigration until we can get a better system in place to targeting specific trouble regions (as opposed to all Muslim immigrants).
Are you unaware that Curiel is a member of La Raza Lawyers of San Diego?
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