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Old 08-04-2016, 09:17 AM
 
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More Black females are choosing the government to support their child-rearing over husbands/fathers for their children? What does that say about Black females' opinions of Black men? Looks like the Black population's en masse vote of "No Confidence" in Black men to me...
Have you ever considered that the Gloria Steinem version of feminism has played a role? She is the one who started "I don't need a man".

As for lack of confidence in Black men, wrap your mind around this. The Black man has been the most emasculated man in America. He has historically been more likely to be put in positions where supporting a family is difficult. Last hired, first fired, more likely to be put in prison, more likely to be killed. Lower life expectancy.

Something else. Ever consider that women often decide who they date and procreate with? If said women don't have any confidence in Black men, but procreate with them anyway, what does it say about those women? What does it say about their judgement? And what about the Black men who have college educations, professional jobs, and remain single into their 30s(like me)? Some of us Black men can be remember getting shot down by women because we "didn't have swag".
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Old 08-04-2016, 04:41 PM
 
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This question requires an answer. When it comes to race relations in terms of Blacks, why is there such a zeal for blaming the men? Why aren't the women obliged with sharing the blame?
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Old 08-10-2016, 02:41 PM
 
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In 1942 Ashley Montagu, the most important theorist on anthropology in the 20th century, wrote a book titled, Man's Most Dangerous Myth, the fallacy of race. I suspect not many people have heard of him or read his book.
Sadly, many people don't care. Many people are happy to cling to hate.
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Old 08-10-2016, 03:08 PM
 
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A lot of these comments have nothing to do with why race is a issue in America. You have to start from where the root of the problem started then work your way to modern society.
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Old 08-10-2016, 03:17 PM
 
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Yes, the democrats share blame. But, that does not negate the damage of slavery and Jim Crow.




Race relations are worse under Obama because now blacks have nowhere to go. There are no more physical barriers to demolish. All bathrooms, schools, and water fountains are available so there is nothing tangible to remove. And blacks have become mayors, councilmen, congressmen, and Presidents of the USA and the situation remains the same. There is really nowhere else to go; there are no mountains to climb. We are left with a gargantuan psychological scar that is keeping some American blacks from succeeding.
What is keeping some American blacks from succeeding is an absolute refusal to take personal responsibility for their own actions and situation. This ready made excuse of "slavery and Jim Crow" simply enables their escapist fantasy..
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Old 08-10-2016, 03:30 PM
 
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Slavery of Africans began way before the United States was ever known to exist. Don't blame this country for its origins. And some blame belongs to the African sellers of their own kind, no?

Slavery Timeline 1400-1500 - a Chronology of Slavery, Abolition, and Emancipation
Well, if we are considering the history of slavery, it seems slavery is as old as mankind itself, and black folks in no way have a corner on it. Seems many of our ancestors were slaves at some time as well. Here is one example:

https://researchnews.osu.edu/archive/whtslav.htm
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Old 08-11-2016, 06:25 AM
 
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A lot of these comments have nothing to do with why race is a issue in America. You have to start from where the root of the problem started then work your way to modern society.


No, you don't. We've explored the root of the problem numerous times. We know why it started, now we need to figure out how to correct it for tomorrow. You cannot continuously look at the past to find an answer. There is no answer there.


You have to look at today and be thinking about tomorrow. What small thing can we change today? What effect will that change have on tomorrow? What can I change tomorrow and what effect will that have on the day after? We need solutions, not a continuous repetitious statement of the source of the problem. It has been clearly identified by many. You cannot expect someone to just step up and say "I'll take care of the problem." It doesn't work like that. Each individual must take accountability for themselves. We have no control over anyone else. The effect is racism(not the cause), so what is the cause? (Hint... the cause in 2016 is not slavery) Identify that, and then start working towards the solution.


Set goals and milestones and try to reach those as a society. You can't just stop, throw your hands up, and just keep repeating that there is a problem. We all need to take responsibility for the problem, come together to figure out a solution and then execute that solution.

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Old 08-11-2016, 07:55 AM
 
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This nation has been dealing with race issues from day one. It has been like this going back to slavery. It is something that has never really gone away, and doesn't seem to be going away anytime soon.
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Old 08-11-2016, 07:56 AM
 
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Well, if we are considering the history of slavery, it seems slavery is as old as mankind itself, and black folks in no way have a corner on it. Seems many of our ancestors were slaves at some time as well. Here is one example:

https://researchnews.osu.edu/archive/whtslav.htm
But this is the thing. We are dealing with race issues in the USA. Slavery in THIS country was very much race-related.
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Old 08-11-2016, 08:39 AM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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No, you don't. We've explored the root of the problem numerous times. We know why it started, now we need to figure out how to correct it for tomorrow. You cannot continuously look at the past to find an answer. There is no answer there.


You have to look at today and be thinking about tomorrow. What small thing can we change today? What effect will that change have on tomorrow? What can I change tomorrow and what effect will that have on the day after? We need solutions, not a continuous repetitious statement of the source of the problem. It has been clearly identified by many. You cannot expect someone to just step up and say "I'll take care of the problem." It doesn't work like that. Each individual must take accountability for themselves. We have no control over anyone else. The effect is racism(not the cause), so what is the cause? (Hint... the cause in 2016 is not slavery) Identify that, and then start working towards the solution.


Set goals and milestones and try to reach those as a society. You can't just stop, throw your hands up, and just keep repeating that there is a problem. We all need to take responsibility for the problem, come together to figure out a solution and then execute that solution.
I agree.

People will often point to that cliche that: "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."

I've always believed there's a corollary to that: Those who dwell on the past are doomed to repeat it.

At this point I don't think it matters who was the first seller of Blacks as slaves. I think what matters -- in regard to solving the issues -- is the purely American history of the practice.
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