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Old 08-04-2016, 04:06 PM
 
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South Florida therapist sues officer who shot him even though he was unarmed, says civil rights were violated

Florida therapist sues officer who shot him - NY Daily News

It's not real clear but I would hope that he is able to personally sue the officer and not just the police force.
Officer's got short pockets. As long as the department is defending his actions as good police policy (which they still were, last I heard), they're making themselves liable.

 
Old 08-04-2016, 04:16 PM
 
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Officer's got short pockets. As long as the department is defending his actions as good police policy (which they still were, last I heard), they're making themselves liable.
I did note......."not just the police force".
 
Old 08-05-2016, 12:05 AM
 
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Cops should have to carry some kind of liability insurance (through their union) for situations like this.

I'm tired of having to pay for their multi million dollar lawsuit screw ups, as this will inevitably become.
 
Old 08-05-2016, 06:57 AM
 
Location: St Louis, MO
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Sounds like you are saying we need to make police officer jobs, contract positions.

O.K. if that is the answer then it is.
It could be an answer.

The main reason police departments do not use contract employments is that doing so then makes the policy manual a component of the contract and subject to contract law. Basically, that means that officers must receive some level of compensation for changes to the policy manual and that changes to policy cannot be made unilaterally. Of course, school districts work with this all the time by making contracts for set portions of the year and changing policy with the new contracts.
Also, obviously, if you have a contract then officers are afforded the normal set of contractual rights, which most cities would not like. If there is a union, this can be negotiated away though.

That said, most police chiefs are hired on contract (and that makes it easier to terminate them).
 
Old 08-05-2016, 08:40 AM
 
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Cops should have to carry some kind of liability insurance (through their union) for situations like this.

I'm tired of having to pay for their multi million dollar lawsuit screw ups, as this will inevitably become.
Exactly. Been saying that for years. If the officer were personally responsible, and had to pay out of their pocket/pension, I bet these incidents would plummet.
 
Old 08-05-2016, 01:28 PM
 
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Exactly. Been saying that for years. If the officer were personally responsible, and had to pay out of their pocket/pension, I bet these incidents would plummet.
I think the threat of a ruined career and life is serious enough. I'm working on a concept though, doing some reading to develop it, but it's basically an observation of a difference in police understanding of their duty and how it resultantly affects the neighborhood attitude toward them. I'm going to call this "Andy versus Barney."
 
Old 04-12-2017, 01:46 PM
 
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Today, the Miami-Dade State Attorney's Office announced it has charged North Miami SWAT Officer Jonathan Aledda with felony attempted manslaughter and misdemeanor culpable negligence after Aledda shot Charles Kinsey, an unarmed black man, in July 2016.

#CharlesKinsey Shooting: Jonathan Aledda, Cop Who Shot Charles Kinsey, Charged With Attempted Manslaughter | Miami New Times
 
Old 04-12-2017, 02:04 PM
 
Location: Mount Airy, Maryland
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Well that is certainly the first step.
 
Old 04-12-2017, 02:11 PM
 
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Well that is certainly the first step.
Took long enough..............
 
Old 05-12-2017, 08:54 AM
 
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Added charges filed.

Miami prosecutors upgrade charges against cop in Charles Kinsey shooting

Prosecutors add charges against North Miami cop in Charles Kinsey shooting | Miami Herald
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