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Old 07-21-2016, 12:42 PM
 
Location: Nashville, TN
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Originally Posted by NOLA101 View Post
Polls show that a HUGE majority of their constituents want tougher regulations but Congress doesn't care. Even a bloodbath of dead babies wasn't sufficient motivation. If that didn't do it, nothing will.
Wow, even the most hardcore bleeding heart liberal would read that and go "whoa man, too far."

Anyway, I looked up the statistics on babies killed accidentally by gunfire. Here's your blood bath:

Year Number of Deaths
1999 0
2000 1
2001 0
2002 1
2003 0
2004 1
2005 1
2006 0
2007 1
2008 0
2009 1
2010 0
2011 4
2012 6
2013 3
2014 2

Average per year: 1.4

So if 1.4 per year is a bloodbath to you, what do you call the thousands more babies killed by other preventable causes?
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Old 07-21-2016, 12:47 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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The people buying guns at Gun Shows or on line from dealers all already go through a background check.
The Quinnipaic poll misleads when it asks the question.

Propaganda often does.
No only dealers provide background checks.


How did the poll mislead
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Old 07-21-2016, 12:50 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Again, what is an assault weapon ? Any semi-auto mag fed rifle and or shotgun ? Or just black ones ?
There was the 1994 definition but a lot of people use assault weapon in general terms.
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Old 07-21-2016, 12:56 PM
 
Location: Billings, MT
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Massachusetts Attorney General -- Unilaterally Bans Assault Weapons | National Review




I'm still trying to get thru the legalese of the change. It sounds like if you have a rifle that copies that of a banned one it is now illegal. So to me that sounds like any semi auto shotgun and or rifle. So long to hunting rifles and such.


Personally , I think any ammo manufacturer, and any firearms manufacturers that sell and or support the MA police depts. needs to cease all activity to them.






Here is the verbiage :
“Assault weaponâ€, shall have the same meaning as a semiautomatic assault weapon as defined in the federal Public Safety and Recreational Firearms Use Protection Act, 18 U.S.C. section 921(a)(30) as appearing in such section on September 13, 1994, and shall include, but not be limited to, any of the weapons, or copies or duplicates of the weapons, of any caliber, known as: (i) Avtomat Kalashnikov (AK) (all models); (ii) Action Arms Israeli Military Industries UZI and Galil; (iii) Beretta Ar70 (SC-70); (iv) Colt AR-15; (v) Fabrique National FN/FAL, FN/LAR and FNC; (vi) SWD M-10, M-11, M-11/9 and M-12; (vi) Steyr AUG; (vii) INTRATEC TEC-9, TEC-DC9 and TEC-22; and (viii) revolving cylinder shotguns, such as, or similar to, the Street Sweeper and Striker 12; provided, however, that the term assault weapon shall not include: (i) any of the weapons, or replicas or duplicates of such weapons, specified in appendix A to 18 U.S.C. section 922 as appearing in such appendix on September 13, 1994, as such weapons were manufactured on October 1, 1993; (ii) any weapon that is operated by manual bolt, pump, lever or slide action; (iii) any weapon that has been rendered permanently inoperable or otherwise rendered permanently unable to be designated a semiautomatic assault weapon; (iv) any weapon that was manufactured prior to the year 1899; (v) any weapon that is an antique or relic, theatrical prop or other weapon that is not capable of firing a projectile and which is not intended for use as a functional weapon and cannot be readily modified through a combination of available parts into an operable assault weapon; (vi) any semiautomatic rifle that cannot accept a detachable magazine that holds more than five rounds of ammunition; or (vii) any semiautomatic shotgun that cannot hold more than five rounds of ammunition in a fixed or detachable magazine.
Gun sellers and manufacturers should immediately STOP selling any such guns to ANY Mass. law enforcement agency or personnel, including the bodyguards assigned to elected officials. ALL such weapons currently in the hands of such agencies or personnel should immediately be recalled by the manufacturer or otherwise removed from the hands of law enforcement personnel. If necessary, they should be chopped up and sold for scrap.
If the citizens can't have them, law enforcement personnel don't need them!
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Old 07-21-2016, 01:05 PM
 
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There was the 1994 definition but a lot of people use assault weapon in general terms.

Well by this AG's new terms these are now illegal



Remington® 750™ Woodmaster™ Semiautomatic Rifles : Cabela's


Ruger® 10/22® Carbine Autoloading Rifle Models


Ruger® Mini-14® Ranch Rifle Autoloading Rifle Models


MKA


https://www.remington.com/shotguns/a...ing/model-1100


Can you explain what this will do ?
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Old 07-21-2016, 01:06 PM
 
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Gun sellers and manufacturers should immediately STOP selling any such guns to ANY Mass. law enforcement agency or personnel, including the bodyguards assigned to elected officials. ALL such weapons currently in the hands of such agencies or personnel should immediately be recalled by the manufacturer or otherwise removed from the hands of law enforcement personnel. If necessary, they should be chopped up and sold for scrap.
If the citizens can't have them, law enforcement personnel don't need them!

I couldn't agree with you more !
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Old 07-21-2016, 01:11 PM
 
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Good for MA. Action is needed nationwide too. Gun deaths in the USA are epidemic.
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Old 07-21-2016, 01:12 PM
 
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Good for MA. Action is needed nationwide too. Gun deaths in the USA are epidemic.

And this will help how ? Please explain.
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Old 07-21-2016, 01:15 PM
 
Location: NJ
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Wow, even the most hardcore bleeding heart liberal would read that and go "whoa man, too far."

Anyway, I looked up the statistics on babies killed accidentally by gunfire. Here's your blood bath:

Year Number of Deaths
1999 0
2000 1
2001 0
2002 1
2003 0
2004 1
2005 1
2006 0
2007 1
2008 0
2009 1
2010 0
2011 4
2012 6
2013 3
2014 2

Average per year: 1.4

So if 1.4 per year is a bloodbath to you, what do you call the thousands more babies killed by other preventable causes?
children killed by guns also include gang members whose average age is 15. Details are a killer.


'babies' most often die from poisoning, drowning in pools or white 5 gallon buckets....
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Old 07-21-2016, 01:25 PM
 
Location: Billings, MT
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"Would you support or oppose a law requiring background checks on people buying guns at gun shows or online?"

The main thing that survey shows is that MOST of the people they asked were unaware of current back ground check laws!
Currently, in most states, the ONLY gun transfers where a background check is not required is a private sale, person to person.
If you want to buy a gun online, the gun can not be shipped direct to your door. It MUST be shipped to a licensed dealer near you, and that dealer MUST do the background check before he can give you the gun.
The same goes for the dreaded "gun show loophole". I have never been to a gun show where the vendors weren't licensed dealers. Yes, those dealers MUST do a background check before selling you a gun.
Now, person to person sales in the parking lot DO happen. Rarely, but they happen. They are perfectly legal in most states. A notable exception is Washington State. BUT, since the total background check law was passed, apparently there have been NO prosecutions for not doing a background check on a private party sale of a firearm! Just another fine example of the passage of an emotion-driven useless law!
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