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Old 07-23-2016, 11:27 PM
 
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Again...the point is that COMPUTERS AND MACHINES ARE NOW DOING MOST OF THOSE JOBS.

You can't "not let them leave" unless you have a time machine or are some sort of a luddite who is going to destroy technological advances.

Trump is just promising you a bunch of nonsense to get your vote.
Trump can't not let them leave, what he can do is tax the living hell out of what they attempt to import back to the US, then they will be begging to return...
GO TRUMP 2016
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Old 07-23-2016, 11:29 PM
 
Location: San Francisco, CA
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Trump can't not let them leave, what he can do is tax the living hell out of what they attempt to import back to the US, then they will be begging to return...
GO TRUMP 2016
Again, perhaps you're too old to get this, but the biggest loss of manufacturing jobs is automation; not nearly as many humans are needed for those jobs as they were in the 1980s. And technological progress is going to soon eliminate many more jobs and it won't matter if the company is in the US or somewhere else. You need to think bigger than tariffs and trade deals because those won't fix it.
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Old 07-24-2016, 10:29 AM
 
Location: ATX-HOU
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Trump can't not let them leave, what he can do is tax the living hell out of what they attempt to import back to the US, then they will be begging to return...
GO TRUMP 2016
What if they don't sell back to the US? What if other countries slap tariffs on their products? You okay with a rapid increase in prices?
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Old 07-24-2016, 10:30 AM
 
Location: ATX-HOU
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IF you tax these outsourcing scumbag companies they will rethink their thoughts
Yep, they may never come back and other countries may retaliate. We will show them!!!1!1!1!1!
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Old 07-24-2016, 10:33 AM
 
Location: ATX-HOU
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That is but a small fraction of what they buy though. The problem is global multinational corporations spend a whole lot of money buying candidates that won't let the federal govt prioritize American jobs. This is why the Republican elite seemingly are more supportive of Hillary than Trump. She and they dance to the same masters. Trump (and Bernie) don't.
No. Trump and Bernie want to repeat the same protectionist mistakes of the late 19th and early 20th century that caused trade wars and actual wars.

The problem is Americans aren't skilled enough for the modern economy. There a lot of unfulfilled jobs out there if you ever care to look.
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Old 07-24-2016, 10:43 AM
 
Location: The ends DO NOT justify the means!!!
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We are the most gluttonous nation on earth. We are the biggest consumers on the planet. Corporations may not want to pay tariffs, but we are their biggest business by far. If they avoid our market, they are out of business.
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Old 07-24-2016, 11:02 AM
 
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Corporations may not want to pay tariffs, but we are their biggest business by far. If they avoid our market, they are out of business.
Why would we want to do this?

Global trade has lifted hundreds of millions people out of poverty and has wildly enriched the wealthy countries of the world. Trade basically saved the U.S. auto industry. Economists on the Right and Left pretty much universally agree that protectionism is bad economics and makes countries poorer (see Venezuela and the like).

There is NO REASON to have low-skill manufacturing jobs in the U.S. It's A. Harming corporate profits and B. Reducing potential global consumers. It's stupid. Those jobs are gone, forever. They aren't coming back from Mexico, nor should they. The days of a high school dropout earning a good salary doing some mindless repetitive job are long gone.
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Old 07-24-2016, 11:03 AM
 
Location: ATX-HOU
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We are the most gluttonous nation on earth. We are the biggest consumers on the planet. Corporations may not want to pay tariffs, but we are their biggest business by far. If they avoid our market, they are out of business.
We are increasingly becoming a smaller market globally. That's some of the old school thought and explains why so many folks are getting left behind. Personal responsibility.
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