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Old 07-23-2016, 11:14 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Why does the right to vote in the 15th and 19th amendments to the constitution say, citizen. But the right to keep & bear arms, to maintain a free state, say people?


I have yet to see anyone from the progressive left or right, be able to be honest about it, when it comes to voting, or weapons.


To make it so for the Progressives, all I get are they are the same thing.
Yet, words have meaning.

Why is one, more specific than the other?
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Old 07-23-2016, 11:15 AM
 
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wouldn't this be a question for a constitutional law attorney?
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Old 07-23-2016, 11:21 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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wouldn't this be a question for a constitutional law attorney?

The constitution was composed so even the common man could understand it, for good reason. It was the common man's chains(laws) government would abide by, or face the peoples arms.
Understanding, the people could never be bullies to government.
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Old 07-23-2016, 11:23 AM
 
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The constitution was composed so even the common man could understand it, for good reason. It was the common man's chains(laws) government would abide by, or face the peoples arms.
Understanding, the people could never be bullies to government.
I agree. but this is not a partisan issue.
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Old 07-23-2016, 11:26 AM
 
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Over/Under 10 percent of the american population knowing what the 15th and 19th amendments are?

By the way, I'm one of the 90 percent. But at least I'll admit it unlike everyone else who'll end up responding in this thread.

I'm not going to google 15th and 19th amendment and come up with some response. I do not know the 15th and 19th amendment, at least off the top of my head.

I'll admit it. The majority of other people won't admit it and will play dumb.
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Old 07-23-2016, 11:29 AM
 
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I agree. but this is not a partisan issue.
Meaning, we don't need a discussion? Can we not use the most powerful weapon we have, to come to our own conclusions? Do we need Constitutional spin artists and double talkers to think for each of us?


I see a problem. I have a better idea now with this short discussion, as to how the Bill of Rights has changed so much, without amendment.
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Old 07-23-2016, 11:32 AM
 
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Over/Under 10 percent of the american population knowing what the 15th and 19th amendments are?

By the way, I'm one of the 90 percent. But at least I'll admit it unlike everyone else who'll end up responding in this thread.

I'm not going to google 15th and 19th amendment and come up with some response. I do not know the 15th and 19th amendment, at least off the top of my head.

I'll admit it. The majority of other people won't admit it and will play dumb.
The 15th amendment gave all male citizens, regardless of race, the ability to vote without question.
The 19th amendment gave all citizens, regardless of sex, the ability to vote without question

I bet the 2nd Amendment to some, only reads: we can have a gun, if we jump through the governments obstacle coarse.
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Old 07-23-2016, 11:37 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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I would highly suggest everyone that wishes to participate in discussions on a political forum, have a copy, read it and understand the words of the constitution, in the time they were written, before jumping in.

Our minds, are our most powerful weapons we as individuals own.

I will reiterate:
Why one amendment has, people and 2 others have, citizen.
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Old 07-23-2016, 11:39 AM
 
Location: The ends DO NOT justify the means!!!
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People (free human beings) have natural rights that exist independent of government. Citizens (slaves of the State) have privileges granted or taken away by the whim of government.
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Old 07-23-2016, 11:43 AM
 
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People (free human beings) have natural rights that exist independent of government. Citizens (slaves of the State) have privileges granted or taken away by the whim of government.

Can this be the defining moment, one consents to be governed?


But why one word in one right and another word elsewhere for another right?
Words do have meaning.

The second amendment has been changed to say Citizen too. Has it not? I must have ID to prove citizenship to have a weapon.
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