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How many people have been murdered by what police forces? The answer is not known because the police have a nasty habit of covering it up. Before video, cops illiterately got away with murder.
So, I would say this. This "picnic" would be a symbolic action - geared toward making peace across the country (as a starting point). As I said, this is not the place to start. Bring out the records for this PD's accusation - I am pretty sure some exist. Investigate the department. And if it looks clean, then have your party. If not, investigate further.
What about the citizens of THAT community?
If THEY enjoyed the BBQ and felt like it was a step in the right direction, why the need for BLM (and you too for that matter) to shout 'em down?
How can you actually say that which I bolded above with no basis in fact whatsoever?
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Originally Posted by pknopp
It is relevant. BLM doesn't want barbeque ribs. They want police officers held accountable for their actions.
The case against the officers in the Garner case is still open.
It would appear that the actual citizens of Wichita were pretty happy with the ribs. THEY weren't the ones complaining that it wasn't a step in the right direction. BLM should shut their collective traps if the citizens of that community were happy with the gesture.
If THEY enjoyed the BBQ and felt like it was a step in the right direction, why the need for BLM (and you too for that matter) to shout 'em down?
How can you actually say that which I bolded above with no basis in fact whatsoever?
It would appear that the actual citizens of Wichita were pretty happy with the ribs. THEY weren't the ones complaining that it wasn't a step in the right direction. BLM should shut their collective traps if the citizens of that community were happy with the gesture.
Maybe you didn't see where I said, "I" wouldn't go. "I" don't support the idea, and "I" would not council anyone else to either.
No, what you're evidently after is police punishment, regardless of what our legal system has to say about the criminality of their actions.
Punishment is wholly different and separate from "accountability".
What will you say if the DoJ investigation into the Garner case renders the same decision as the grand jury? Will that suddenly be a dog and pony show, too?
It would appear that the actual citizens of Wichita were pretty happy with the ribs. THEY weren't the ones complaining that it wasn't a step in the right direction. BLM should shut their collective traps if the citizens of that community were happy with the gesture.
They did it under the auspices of BLM. BLM said, no we were not a part of this and it isn't what we want.
How much did the family get? I'll have to look it up. They got so much becuase they had no right to search him.
Civil liability and criminal liability deal with two COMPLETELY different standards for burden of proof. Look no further than the OJ trial for an example of that. Did OJ do it? Almost certainly. Did the prosecution completely fail to demonstrate beyond a reasonable doubt that he did it? Absolutely. Still found liable in civil court, though. Apples and oranges.
I suspect you know that, though, and are being intentionally deceptive. Again.
They did it under the auspices of BLM. BLM said, no we were not a part of this and it isn't what we want.
Were the folks that attended affiliated with BLM? I can be a member of something - say, the Catholic Church - and be for or against something that the Vatican holds the opposite opinion of.
Whether BLM "leadership" thought it was good or endorsed it can be completely different than what local BLM members think or feel. Right?
Civil liability and criminal liability deal with two COMPLETELY different standards for burden of proof. Look no further than the OJ trial for an example of that. Did OJ do it? Almost certainly. Did the prosecution completely fail to demonstrate beyond a reasonable doubt that he did it? Absolutely. Still found liable in civil court, though. Apples and oranges.
I suspect you know that, though, and are being intentionally deceptive. Again.
The prosecution didn't even try. They are not going to investigate their own outside of rare occasions. That needs changed.
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