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...We have to get permission to pick up trash now? That's pretty sad.
I don't know any history of the ordinance or why it was implemented. If the good people of Fairfield, AL, think it's pointless legislation, they should change it. Simple.
I don't know any history of the ordinance or why it was implemented. If the good people of Fairfield, AL, think it's pointless legislation, they should change it. Simple.
I don't have the energy to read that entire GQ article, I got about halfway through it. It seems to me it was almost exclusively about McGinty's office. I didn't see anything about the officers lying, but again, I didn't read the whole thing.
If McGinty acted inappropriately for a DA, he should be voted out of office. If he can be shown to be criminally negligent in performing his duties, he should be brought up on charges.
Yes, we know the officer that pulled the trigger was not a super-cop. There's no profession out there where every single person performing the job is an all-star. If Cleveland PD needs to revisit their hiring policies, or dispatching policies (i.e. no two-man car with a trainee can respond to these types of calls) I'm fine with that.
It's not a perfect system, but it's the best we've got and it's better than anything I've seen elsewhere.
I don't have the energy to read that entire GQ article, I got about halfway through it. It seems to me it was almost exclusively about McGinty's office. I didn't see anything about the officers lying, but again, I didn't read the whole thing.
If McGinty acted inappropriately for a DA, he should be voted out of office. If he can be shown to be criminally negligent in performing his duties, he should be brought up on charges.
That is what many of us argue........things should be done but they are not.
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Yes, we know the officer that pulled the trigger was not a super-cop. There's no profession out there where every single person performing the job is an all-star. If Cleveland PD needs to revisit their hiring policies, or dispatching policies (i.e. no two-man car with a trainee can respond to these types of calls) I'm fine with that.
It's not a perfect system, but it's the best we've got and it's better than anything I've seen elsewhere.
What are you suggesting be changed, specifically?
Actually performing back ground checks? That isn't asking for much really. If a police officer lies during an investigation, they are fired. I don't think that is asking too much either. We have to have faith in an honest justice system.
Ignoring duly passed legislation because you don't like it? Doesn't sound much like a civilized society to me.
Those enacting the rules are doing it. I've noted this for a long time. You are right, it's a lousy system but it starts at the top. When the top ignores laws when they want to the people are going to also.
The article is about BLM but it's the bigger picture. It's always been the bigger picture. We have to get permission to pick up trash now? That's pretty sad.
This was not picking up trash off the ground. This was collecting trash from trash cans for disposal in a landfill. Those are very different things.
The former almost always involves waste that is commonly accepted at a wide range of landfills. The latter involves household hazardous waste and yard wast which each requires a separate handling protocol and are accepted at separate types of specific landfills.
(Had to work on the sanitation contracts for our district once, and the breadth and depth of specifications in those is pretty interesting.)
When you don't have these sorts of landfill regulations in place, or when they are not enforced, you end up with things like the West Lake Landfill.
Actually performing back ground checks? That isn't asking for much really. If a police officer lies during an investigation, they are fired. I don't think that is asking too much either. We have to have faith in an honest justice system.
We also need to simply pay police and teachers far more than we do.
When police departments can select only the top candidates, rather than taking any candidate who can pass the background check, people like Timothy Loehmann will never have a job as a police officer in the first place, much less get moved between departments.
(Also, if we can pay police officers over $100k/yr, then many of the protections they have on the job now go away. They would still get due process, but some of the protections they have now like the requirement for progressive discipline would no longer apply.)
We also need to simply pay police and teachers far more than we do.
That is very possible. I have never been against that as long as the higher pay comes with a higher level of accountability.
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When police departments can select only the top candidates, rather than taking any candidate who can pass the background check, people like Timothy Loehmann will never have a job as a police officer in the first place, much less get moved between departments.
(Also, if we can pay police officers over $100k/yr, then many of the protections they have on the job now go away. They would still get due process, but some of the protections they have now like the requirement for progressive discipline would no longer apply.)
There is no one set acceptable pay as a police officer in NYC would require more than one in a small town but again, I am not against that.
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