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Old 07-24-2016, 03:39 PM
 
Location: St Paul
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You missed the who point. Google campaign zero and it will lead you to the website.
"Changing laws is the best way to put an end to Police misconduct."

Which laws?
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Old 07-24-2016, 03:44 PM
 
Location: Houston
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"Changing laws is the best way to put an end to Police misconduct."

Which laws?

Let's end the drug war. Let people sell single cigarettes as part of that.
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Old 07-24-2016, 04:31 PM
 
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New Black Panther Party | New Black Panther Party said all of that? I'm surprised... while I don't support them, I don't see what you said there.

I looked at the BLM site a while ago... funny thing is it says nothing about how they support black men in the families.

Sounds like you are making stuff up....
No I'm not. Check for yourself:

http://blacklivesmatter.com/herstory/

When she says that 1 million black people are locked in cages, it is evidence of state violence against black people. Give me a freaking break! There are probably some people who were wrongly convicted, but the overwhelming majority of those prisoners committed the crime for which they were inprisoned. The genocide of black people isn't being committed by the state.
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Old 07-24-2016, 04:35 PM
 
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No I'm not. Check for yourself:

http://blacklivesmatter.com/herstory/

When she says that 1 million black people are locked in cages, it is evidence of state violence against black people. Give me a freaking break! There are probably some people who were wrongly convicted, but the overwhelming majority of those prisoners committed the crime for which they were inprisoned. The genocide of black people isn't being committed by the state.
Eric Garner was killed for being suspected of selling loose cigarettes on a street corner........yes, it's possible he was guilty of that "crime".

You don't see a problem here?
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Old 07-24-2016, 04:36 PM
 
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why not just no cops in black neighbourhoods, at all.
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Old 07-24-2016, 04:41 PM
 
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Eric Garner was killed for being suspected of selling loose cigarettes on a street corner........yes, it's possible he was guilty of that "crime".

You don't see a problem here?
I absolutely see a problem with the way the police handled Eric Garner's case. But Eric Garner could have eliminated that possibility by complying with orders. I think the police should have got the knee off his neck when he started complaining about not being able to breathe. That was wrong, and I've always said so.
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Old 07-24-2016, 04:42 PM
 
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why not just no cops in black neighbourhoods, at all.
Because there are a lot of good people there who deserve protection.
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Old 07-24-2016, 04:53 PM
 
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No I'm not. Check for yourself:

http://blacklivesmatter.com/herstory/

When she says that 1 million black people are locked in cages, it is evidence of state violence against black people. Give me a freaking break! There are probably some people who were wrongly convicted, but the overwhelming majority of those prisoners committed the crime for which they were inprisoned. The genocide of black people isn't being committed by the state.
So that entire paragraph and page, that is what you took from it? That is sad.

I understand what they are saying... they are saying black people are imprisoned at a higher rate than whites. Laws are changed to ensure this happens (crack vs. cocaine, for example - and other documented issues). If all things were equal, there would definitely be more whites in jail. They argue that blacks don't get the "breaks" that whites receive.

I actually agree with you... believe it or not. I say don't do the crime, if you can't do the time. If I'm speeding with 100 other people and the police officer pulls me over and gives me a ticket.... what do I say? Everyone else was doing it or why did you not give everyone else a ticket. No, I accept the ticket. I was speeding. Period.

While I agree with you, I also understand that we should look into some of the issues raised by the BLM movement. I think the way they are going about this is the wrong way... but I don't think it is something you can ignore.

I'm not going to discount them just because I think there is a better way (ie don't get in situations where you are doing crime).
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Old 07-24-2016, 04:53 PM
 
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Let's end the drug war. Let people sell single cigarettes as part of that.
Selling single cigarettes is a public nuisance and often a tax dodge. Even if we ended the drug war (which we should for soft drugs) that should remain prohibited.*

*At least as done today. If retailers want to sell singles in their stores, with tax fully paid, then fine.
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Old 07-24-2016, 05:00 PM
 
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I absolutely see a problem with the way the police handled Eric Garner's case. But Eric Garner could have eliminated that possibility by complying with orders.
No no no. We have to also stop the idea that people must simply submit to illegal searches and then complain later. It leads to this.

//www.city-data.com/forum/polit...egal-body.html

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I think the police should have got the knee off his neck when he started complaining about not being able to breathe. That was wrong, and I've always said so.
No, they should have never touched him to start with.
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