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Have YOU ever been an employer? If so, you would know that verification is required by law. Those employers that fail to verify are breaking the law. Let me guess you failed to report your income or you were working off the books......right?
By the way, I've been poor-really poor to the point where I had to make a choice of food or heat and I always had an ID!
You don't get it and you're missing the entire point. Once again making assumptions and projecting your own experiences on to everyone else.
I got my birth certificate in the mail. My children's birth certificates came in the mail??
If you have a credit card or bank account (USPS money orders not accepted) and $24 is not a hardship, you are in the majority, however it is the minority of NC citizens that must be afforded the same access, thus the ruling.
supposedly these judges said the acceptable forms of IDs are the ones that white people are most likely to have, the ones that you can get at the DMV, and this discriminates against black voters. Kind of hard to believe a significant number of black people have an ID that is not one of the following:
Here are the acceptable forms of photo ID:
NC drivers license, learner’s permit or provisional license.
NC special identification card for non-drivers.
US passport.
US military ID or Veterans ID card.
Enrollment card from a federally or NC recognized
tribe.
Out-of-state driver’s license but only for 90 days
after the voter registers in North Carolina. No student IDs are accepted.
Voters can cast a provisional ballot, but it will only count if they bring an acceptable ID to the county board of
elections by noon of the day before the election canvass.
I think many states will only accept a drivers' license and there is no provisional ballot if you don't have one when you go vote. The opponents keep saying this is most restrictive voter bill in country but that is not true.
Some states don't have any early voting. NC has 10 days of early voting, which includes 2 Saturdays and 1 Sunday. Many states that offer early voting don't have it on weekend and Sunday.
The judges 'proof' of intent to disenfranchise black people (they call it a 'smoking gun') appears to be that 1 Sunday was dropped from early voting when it was reduced from 17 days to 10 days. But there are many states who have no Sunday voting at all.
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Based on the logic of this ruling, requiring ID to exercise 2nd Amendment rights would disproportionately disenfranchise African Americans. Background checks would be, therefore, untenable.
In case you have forgotten, owning a handgun comes with requirements, one of which is no criminal or mental background, because we don't want criminals, druggies, wife beaters, crazies and others going into the local Wal Mart and buying a handgun.
People who cannot afford $24 for a birth certificate certainly cannot afford $90 for a handgun permit. Anyway, the only reason for the voter suppression laws was to suppress the vote, because there is no such thing as voter fraud, unless you are talking about the people who count the votes.
Patently false. Did you read the ruling? Didn't think so.
The NC GOP enacted legislation that affected AA voters with surgical precision.
How ANYONE can read that ruling and not agree befuddles me, the evidence is CLEAR and DIRECT. The NC GOP broke the law, and will be spending oodles of NC money to defend their folly.
supposedly these judges said the acceptable forms of IDs are the ones that white people are most likely to have, the ones that you can get at the DMV, and this discriminates against black voters. Kind of hard to believe a significant number of black people have an ID that is not one of the following:
Here are the acceptable forms of photo ID:
NC drivers license, learner’s permit or provisional license.
NC special identification card for non-drivers.
US passport.
US military ID or Veterans ID card.
Enrollment card from a federally or NC recognized
tribe.
Out-of-state driver’s license but only for 90 days
after the voter registers in North Carolina. No student IDs are accepted.
Voters can cast a provisional ballot, but it will only count if they bring an acceptable ID to the county board of
elections by noon of the day before the election canvass.
I think many states will only accept a drivers' license and there is no provisional ballot if you don't have one when you go vote. The opponents keep saying this is most restrictive voter bill in country but that is not true.
Some states don't have any early voting. NC has 10 days of early voting, which includes 2 Saturdays and 1 Sunday. Many states that offer early voting don't have it on weekend and Sunday.
The judges 'proof' of intent to disenfranchise black people (they call it a 'smoking gun') appears to be that 1 Sunday was dropped from early voting when it was reduced from 17 days to 10 days. But there are many states who have no Sunday voting at all.
The US Constitution stated in Amendment XV, which was ratified by the states in 1870: "Section 1. The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of race, color, or previous condition of servitude.Sep 21, 2015
your premise is that obtaining a photo ID is difficult or expensive. NC offers free photo IDs for the poor.
it seems patronizing to assert that many black voters are not capable of obtaining an acceptable form of photo ID. if they are capable of getting to the voting location and casting a ballot, it seems like they are capable of getting a photo id, which they need to have anyway for numerous things, like to sign up for welfare or get food stamps.
it is obvious there will be voter fraud if no photo ID is required.
also, if you want to go by the Constiution, it talks about a single Election Day. Early voting is not in strict compliance with the Constitution, yet the opponents of the bill are complaining about 10 days of early voting rather than 17 days. It is 10 more days than what the Constitution has allowed.
Decision is most certainly politically motivated. Wonder if anyone even took the time to ask an actual black voter if they have trouble getting an i.d.
Maybe black lives matter can get on this and help them out.
Nothing will happen this election cycle. The Supreme's are loath to take on election cases as elections approach. In their mind (rightly) too many rule changes close to the actual vote is unacceptable.
I'm thinking McCrory won't even still be in office by the time this gets sorted out and if that's the case there's zero chance of him using his own funds to pursue a legal challenge.
On the other hand, seems like the most lucrative gig in the entire Tarheel state might be an attorney working on retainer for the GA. A client with a propensity for committing stupid actions + deep pockets = Nice beach house around Wilmington.
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