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Old 08-02-2016, 02:51 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Big Aristotle View Post
Voter ID is another outdated tactic that might serve as a short term solution to address the shifting demographic. If the GOP invested more time in attracting from that large pool of minority and other voters that are fiscally and moderately social conservative through sensible policies and matters that concern them, these draconian measures to suppress votes via the illusion of voter fraud wouldn't be necessary.
Exactly. They are not speaking to the needs of the vast majority of Black and Brown folks. As the demographics shift, their party will be adrift if they don't change.

 
Old 08-02-2016, 06:59 PM
 
Location: Greenville SC 'Waterfall City'
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I don't get how hard it is to get ID. Prove who you are and you can vote. This is ridiculous.
the Democrat party would support photo ID to vote if the majority of black voters were voting for the GOP. The GOP will be for photo ID regardless because it makes sense and is the only way to prevent voter fraud.

you've seen people on this thread say they are ok with voter fraud in elections if it also means more black people vote. in other words, we must do away with a common sense safeguard to maintain the validity of our elections simply to pander to people who fail to obtain a photo ID, an incredibly easy task. The Democrat party exploits te real racism of the past to maximize their votes in the present.
 
Old 08-02-2016, 07:18 PM
 
Location: Raleigh NC
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That's a big freakin caveat...

Before this law was thrown out, if someone moved to NC today and registered to vote, they would show up on election date ready to cast their ballot and would have been told that their perfectly valid ID that they are able to use to do everything else in their life is not enough to allow them to exercise their right to vote.

That law and not allowing college IDs has nothing to do with keeping elections safe, it is a move designed to make it harder for college students and graduate/professional students to vote. You can't pretend you don't understand that.
I'm sure it's been said already but ...

it's to make you follow the law, which is to apply for and obtain an NCDL when you move here.
 
Old 08-02-2016, 07:22 PM
 
Location: Raleigh NC
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and register your car/get your license plate, etc.
 
Old 08-03-2016, 01:25 AM
 
Location: Greenville SC 'Waterfall City'
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Voter ID laws help protect elections: Gov. McCrory

In my insomnia induced late night internet wanderings, i came across this editorial by Gov. McCrory at the link.

I really liked his rhetorical question in bold below:

Claiming that requiring a photo ID to vote is a denial of constitutional rights based on race is an insult to the ninth-largest state in the nation. Citing limited cases of recorded voter fraud begs the question: If your house has never been broken into, do you still lock the door? The obvious answer is yes, and these false arguments defy reality.

He also points out the judges relied on statements by a buffoon that was just shockjocking and playing to the camera on the Comedy Central a few years ago, and then was promptly fired by the GOP. No serious Republican official would do an interview with Comedy Central because the whole purpose of that channel is to mock the GOP and make the party look bad.
 
Old 08-03-2016, 06:27 AM
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Location: The Sand Hills of NC
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Voter ID laws help protect elections: Gov. McCrory

In my insomnia induced late night internet wanderings, i came across this editorial by Gov. McCrory at the link.

I really liked his rhetorical question in bold below:

Claiming that requiring a photo ID to vote is a denial of constitutional rights based on race is an insult to the ninth-largest state in the nation. Citing limited cases of recorded voter fraud begs the question: If your house has never been broken into, do you still lock the door? The obvious answer is yes, and these false arguments defy reality.

He also points out the judges relied on statements by a buffoon that was just shockjocking and playing to the camera on the Comedy Central a few years ago, and then was promptly fired by the GOP. No serious Republican official would do an interview with Comedy Central because the whole purpose of that channel is to mock the GOP and make the party look bad.
Pretty sure the Republican party does not need any help in making itself look bad.

The list of wackos they support for public office is proof they care little about looking bad.
 
Old 08-03-2016, 09:48 AM
 
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And after tireless years of lawsuits, and millions of dollars shouldered by the victims of discrimination, advocates are finally achieving what they set out to do: Show that today’s cleverly masked voting laws — passed under false pretenses of stopping nonexistent in-person voter fraud — are no different from the tactics used during the Jim Crow era to maintain white political power...

In North Carolina, the legislature requested racial data on the use of electoral mechanisms, then restricted all those disproportionately used by blacks, such as early voting, same-day registration and out-of-precinct voting. Absentee ballots, disproportionately used by white voters, were exempted from the voter ID requirement. The legislative record actually justified the elimination of one of the two days of Sunday voting because “counties with Sunday voting in 2014 were disproportionately black” and “disproportionately Democratic.”

The documents acceptable for proving voters’ identity in North Carolina were the ones disproportionately held by whites, such as driver’s licenses, U.S. passports, and veteran and military IDs, and the ones that were left out were the ones often held by poor minority voters, such as student IDs, government employee IDs and public assistance IDs.
Courts are finally pointing out the racism behind voter ID laws - The Washington Post
 
Old 08-03-2016, 10:19 AM
 
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Blacks are less likely to have ID, therefore requiring ID is racist.


Blacks are also more likely to commit crime, therefore outlawing crime is also racist.
 
Old 08-03-2016, 12:12 PM
 
Location: Greenville SC 'Waterfall City'
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Pretty sure the Republican party does not need any help in making itself look bad.

The list of wackos they support for public office is proof they care little about looking bad.
Ok. you have a partisan bias though, one suspects.

there is nothing wacko about requiring a photo ID to vote. 70 percent of Americans support it.
 
Old 08-03-2016, 02:37 PM
 
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Blacks are less likely to have ID, therefore requiring ID is racist.


Blacks are also more likely to commit crime, therefore outlawing crime is also racist.
Blacks aren't less likely to have ID; they are less likely to have the forms of ID that the law requires. Big difference. And it goes well beyond ID which I'm sure you know.

Gotta love the selective logic employed in defense of such a f'ed up law, but we've seen these justifications before with literary tests and poll taxes.
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