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Old 07-30-2016, 06:30 PM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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And what if they don't want your friendship?
Then, leave them alone.
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Old 07-30-2016, 06:31 PM
 
Location: ATX-HOU
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Trade with all nations, entangling alliances with none.
Even North Korea or those who murder their own people?

Unfortunately, in the real world alliances are necessary. A global world means a world with global rules. Does Russia want to be apart of a global world?

The establishment views 7 billions customers as a good thing but protectioniist view them as enemies/job takers.
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Old 07-30-2016, 06:33 PM
 
Location: ATX-HOU
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Then, leave them alone.
And if that isn't enough?

So it sounds like you are an Obama supporter with your global case for peace. Is that the case?
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Old 07-30-2016, 06:41 PM
 
Location: Texas
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And if that isn't enough?

So it sounds like you are an Obama supporter with your global case for peace. Is that the case?
lmao Is that why obama still has troops stationed everywhere and is killing innocent people with his drones?
That filthy war mongering pig is a disgrace to the cause of peace.
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Old 07-30-2016, 06:47 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Even North Korea or those who murder their own people?
Obviously you dont want to ship items that can be used to hurt innocents. When you stop all trade with a nation all you do is hurt the poor. Remember all those that died in Iraq under Bush 1?

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Unfortunately, in the real world alliances are necessary. A global world means a world with global rules.
No it doesn't. But as long as we are writing the rules, right? How'd that work out in Iraq?

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Does Russia want to be apart of a global world?
It's up to them

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The establishment views 7 billions customers as a good thing but protectionist view them as enemies/job takers.
You're not making much sense with that statement, maybe you can clarify. But we get managed trade instead of free trade. Like that's a good thing?
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Old 07-30-2016, 06:58 PM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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And if that isn't enough?

So it sounds like you are an Obama supporter with your global case for peace. Is that the case?
I think this question is ridiculous to be honest.

No, it is not the case. I am not Obama supporter LOL
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Old 07-30-2016, 09:30 PM
 
Location: ATX-HOU
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Obviously you dont want to ship items that can be used to hurt innocents. When you stop all trade with a nation all you do is hurt the poor. Remember all those that died in Iraq under Bush 1?
I do. We easily destroyed the Iraqi army and left all those people who rose up to be ruled under Saddam again.

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No it doesn't. But as long as we are writing the rules, right? How'd that work out in Iraq?
Sure it does. Are you not a student of history? Alliances don't have to be only militarily.... as we've seen in the 20th and 21st century,

Didn't work out at all for Iraq. We again easily destroyed their army and completely dropped the ball on the post war rebuild. We have a monetary bailout system through the IMF for dealing with economically bankrupt nations, we need a global system to prevent the mess we left.

Several million died as the result of genocide in Africa over the last 20 years. Seems like we need a better global system to deal with such things.

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It's up to them
It was a trick question, Russia has a commodity based economy and is reliant on global trade.

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You're not making much sense with that statement, maybe you can clarify. But we get managed trade instead of free trade. Like that's a good thing?
Globalization is inevitable and too many Americans have not taken the personal responsibility to adapt. Protectionists/nationalist will only repeat the history that came about from turning yourself into a lonely island. Spoiler alert... Napoleonic Wars and two world wars occurred because of a bunch of flag wavers wo couldn't see the forest through the trees.
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Old 07-30-2016, 09:32 PM
 
Location: ATX-HOU
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I think this question is ridiculous to be honest.

No, it is not the case. I am not Obama supporter LOL
Sure you do. It's trendy to be anti-establishment so as a slave to trends you are willingly to kneel before Putin since the Democrats have taken the opposite position.
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Old 07-30-2016, 10:01 PM
 
Location: ATX-HOU
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The shale boom in the US means we can become a top exporter of natural gas.... a major export of Russia.

WSJ: With U.S. Gas, Europe Seeks Escape From Russia’s Energy Grip

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Many in Europe see U.S. entry into the market as part of a broader effort to challenge Russian domination of energy supplies and prices in this part of the world. Moscow has for years used its giant energy reserves as a strategic tool to influence former satellite countries, including Lithuania, one of the countries on the fringes of Russia that now see a chance to break away.


Some are building the capacity to handle seaborne LNG, including Poland, which opened its first import terminal last year. In Bulgaria, which buys about 90% of its gas from Russia, Prime Minister Boyko Borissov said last month that supplies of U.S. gas could arrive via Greek LNG facilities, “God willing.”

The shale boom has reshaped the world energy market over the past decade, with the U.S. emerging as a new energy exporter, and the beginning of gas exports represents a big moment in this new world. Deutsche Bank estimates the U.S. could catch up with Russia as Europe’s biggest gas supplier within a decade, with each nation controlling around a fifth of the market. Russia supplies about a third of Europe’s gas via pipeline.
I know it's trendy to think America is weak and down but we actually got like $80 billion in manufacturing and logistics being constructed along the gulf coast that is solidifying America's role in the production of refined petro products. With a clearer domestic energy policy, North America can not only become the largest producer of natural gas but largest exporter. We are already building the LNG export terminals.
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Old 07-30-2016, 10:05 PM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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Sure you do. It's trendy to be anti-establishment so as a slave to trends you are willingly to kneel before Putin since the Democrats have taken the opposite position.
I have no ideas what you are talking about.

Last time I checked, Putin is in charge of Russia. Hey, Russians love him, there is a reason why. Do I want him to be my president? LOL That is another story. Got that?
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