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Old 08-01-2016, 08:44 AM
 
Location: Southern Nevada
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18 U.S. Code § 700 says that desecration of the Flag of the United States carries penalties:

(1) Whoever knowingly mutilates, defaces, physically defiles, burns, maintains on the floor or ground, or tramples upon any flag of the United States shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for not more than one year, or both.

However --

The United States Supreme Court in Texas v. Johnson, 491 U.S. 397 (1989), and reaffirmed in U.S. v. Eichman, 496 U.S. 310 (1990), has ruled that due to the First Amendment to the United States Constitution, it is unconstitutional for a government (whether federal, state, or municipality) to prohibit the desecration of the flag.

FWIW, it bothers me to no end when I see these idiots desecrating our flag. Having the right to do it does not make it okay. The worst part is 90% of the time the protesters don't even know what they're protesting. They are nothing more than attention-seeking go-with-the-flow ignorant little millennial snowflakes that deserve a kick in the rear.
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Old 08-01-2016, 08:53 AM
 
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Don't get me wrong, I support your right to do that under the !st Amendment but why do you lefties seem compelled to repeatedly play that card?

What's your point?

"Police say that a Clinton supporter lit a flag on fire near a group of Trump supporters and attacked a man near the Clinton-Kaine event downtown Saturday afternoon............Sturman crossed the street and walked into the middle of the group of Trump supporters........The Trump supporters attempted to put out the fire, which “enraged” Sturman. Sturman then threw a Trump supporter to the ground and attempted to jump on top of him. Bystanders alerted nearby officers, and police removed Sturman and placed him under detention........"

Yet another example of the totalitarian left.

Video included in the article.

Police: Clinton Supporter Lights Flag On Fire, Attacks Trump Supporter « CBS Pittsburgh
It's consistently been either Clinton or Sanders supporters that start these incidents and escalate them into violence, and yet the media is always discussing Trump supporters as if they are the people prone to violence.

The left is were the violent people reside. Whether it's another violent Occupy Wall Street rally, or BLM, or another Ferguson riot, it's always the left and democratic party voters.
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Old 08-01-2016, 08:55 AM
 
Location: St. Louis
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Yo, Mr. Right, next time you see a hot babe in an American flag bikini remember what happens when she farts.
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Old 08-01-2016, 09:17 AM
 
Location: Sarasota, FL
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18 U.S. Code § 700 says that desecration of the Flag of the United States carries penalties:

(1) Whoever knowingly mutilates, defaces, physically defiles, burns, maintains on the floor or ground, or tramples upon any flag of the United States shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for not more than one year, or both.

However --

The United States Supreme Court in Texas v. Johnson, 491 U.S. 397 (1989), and reaffirmed in U.S. v. Eichman, 496 U.S. 310 (1990), has ruled that due to the First Amendment to the United States Constitution, it is unconstitutional for a government (whether federal, state, or municipality) to prohibit the desecration of the flag.

FWIW, it bothers me to no end when I see these idiots desecrating our flag. Having the right to do it does not make it okay. . . .

I agree. Its protected speech alright, even wearing a flag bikini and passing wind into it is protected speech. My problem with flag burning is that it distracts from the real issues and makes the flag burners and their antics the focus of attention.
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Old 08-01-2016, 09:28 AM
 
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I support people's right to burn the flag.

But, it's just so cliche. Be original.
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Old 08-01-2016, 09:35 AM
 
Location: St. Louis
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I support people's right to burn the flag.

But, it's just so cliche. Be original.
Yeah, almost nobody raises the bar by wearing the flag when they set it on fire. Wussies.
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Old 08-01-2016, 10:05 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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I am surprised they didn't burn one on the stage at RNC. Since they had nothing good to say about the US, they might as well burn the flag to put the exclamation point to it.

I believe they were in effort to put out the flag that is now burning.
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Old 08-01-2016, 10:09 AM
 
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It is freedom of 'speech', I will note.

Anyway, so you are saying the Court was wrong in Citizens United?
I thought I made myself perfectly clear.

I do NOT agree with the SC decision.

There are MANY court decisions people disagree with.

Even later courts have CHANGED what earlier courts have ruled on, so it is nothing new.

Freedom of EXPRESSION is NOT, IMO, freedom of SPEECH.

Burning a flag is AN ACTION NOT SPEECH.

You may disagree and that is OK.
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Old 08-01-2016, 10:12 AM
 
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The flag symbolizes the U.S. government or the establishment. By burning it, the globalist/collectivist far left burns a nationalist symbol. But its a good question OP -- the far right also stands against the government at times, but I don't get the impression that they try to get attention the same way.
"The flag symbolizes the U.S. government or the establishment."

I see you FAILED History in school.

Must have been a public one.
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Old 08-01-2016, 10:13 AM
 
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I am surprised they didn't burn one on the stage at RNC. Since they had nothing good to say about the US, they might as well burn the flag to put the exclamation point to it.
You have selective hearingl.
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