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Old 08-02-2016, 08:52 PM
 
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The question is... Does your representative in the house and your senator in the senate, support it?? Mine don't.
Then more bucket loads of bribery money will be passed around until they get the puppets they need to pass it. That is the power of deep pockets over an especially ever decreasing middle class in this country

These people are evil. All they worship is power and wealth
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Old 08-02-2016, 08:55 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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I'll do that as soon as you show me where Bribery is Freedom of Speech as well.....

Lets make a deal, we throw all the Corporate and Banking Lobbyists out of the Government donating bucket loads to politicians and they can crow to the media all they want.

Deal?



Neither exist. So, I take it, you can only show us all the ignorance of the constitution you possess.
Come on... Show me, where the constitution says government can restrict the 1st amendment of anything, not incarcerated.
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Old 08-02-2016, 08:59 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Then more bucket loads of bribery money will be passed around until they get the puppets they need to pass it. That is the power of deep pockets over an especially ever decreasing middle class in this country

These people are evil. All they worship is power and wealth
Does your representative in the house and your senators in the senate, support TTP??
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Old 08-02-2016, 09:08 PM
 
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Does your representative in the house and your senators in the senate, support TTP??
I don't go by what politicians say they will do since they all lie and flipflop
Looking at the past actions is abetter indicator

So who voted for TPP fast track in the Senate? (List) – AgainstCronyCapitalism.org
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Old 08-02-2016, 09:21 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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I don't go by what politicians say they will do since they all lie and flipflop
Looking at the past actions is abetter indicator

So who voted for TPP fast track in the Senate? (List) – AgainstCronyCapitalism.org

Sounds like you need to work on your representation, retrieve your consent to be governed, or move somewhere that people are more like you. We all have choices in life. No matter where you go, just don't try to silence the opposition and there are no problems.

I didn't know that money bought the truth. I thought it always bought the lies.
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Old 08-02-2016, 09:33 PM
 
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This has always surprised me. We know that members of Congress use about 70% of their time in office to solicit campaign donations from the super rich. They have seperate rooms where they beg the super rich for money most of the day. Trump promises to lift all restrictions on campaign finance to make it even easier for the rich to pull the strings of our elected officials. His dream is several new Scalias on the Supreme Court. Judges that believe there should be no restrictions for the billionaire class to bribe.

Trump supporters claim they are interested in changing the status quo and are tired of corruption in DC. Yet, they seem perfectly fine with the corrupt system of campaign finance and support making it even easier for the donor class to buy elections!

It blows my mind.
because hes just another politician.
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Old 08-02-2016, 10:04 PM
 
Location: Houston
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The five are nothing but puppets, and they dont serve you, they serve their financial overlords. Why you protect these people who laugh in your face as they transfer wealth from people like yourself to themselves is odd. They dont care about you. Its better to just send your money straight to the donor class instead of voting for these people who promise to make the voting process completely irrelevant as the policy is just rubber stamped by the super rich.
The ones who do not serve me are the other four who want government to control every aspect of my life and want to shut up people who disagree with that notion.
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Old 08-03-2016, 02:41 AM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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How can the destruction of our democratic process be down the list of problems to deal with? If we dont get big money special interests out of politics, we dont have a democracy anymore. Whats so great about that?



Trump agrees with you that we need to get big money out of politics.


Trump open to campaign finance reform | TheHill


Trump: 'I Love The Idea Of Campaign Finance Reform' | The Daily Caller




Now apologize to everyone for wasting their time.
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Old 08-03-2016, 04:46 AM
 
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The biggest entities in this country against Consumer Oriented Capitalism would be the Big Corporations that control our Government and Media

They love Fascism

They claim to be super-patriots but they would destroy every liberty guaranteed by the Constitution. They demand free enterprise but are the spokesmen for monopoly and vested interest. Their final objective toward which all their deceit is directed is to capture political power so that using the power of the state and the power of the market simultaneously they may keep the common man in eternal subjection." VP Wallace on Fascism 1944
Your complaints ring hollow. When all of the things you note above where happining the last 8 years I was told over and over that we had to cater to every need of big business or everything would fall apart. Never mind that nothing was further from the truth.

Complaining about something and then voting for it. Bravo.
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Old 08-03-2016, 04:49 AM
 
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The TPP is a fine example put together only by Organized Business and attempted passes by their puppets
Workers and citizens had no say in the negotiating process required under capitalism
If it is not supported by all parties it is Fascism

Fascism should more properly be called corporatism, since it is the merger of state and corporate power.
Benito Mussolini
TPP has NOTHING to do with the poster you responded this way to and again, complaining about TPP and then voting in support of it is a joke.

Can I assume you are voting for Trump as he is the only candidate campaigning against it? Sanders tried to get the (D)'s to officially condemn it and lost. If Hillary wins, it will pass.

Or we could do the right thing and elect Jill Stein.
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