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Old 08-02-2016, 06:31 PM
 
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The Earth's climate has been changing since the Earth was first formed, and will continue to change until it is ultimately destroyed.

The only people who even come close to denying that the Earth's climate is naturally in a state of constant change are the AGW alarmists, who appear to believe that a static climate is somehow normal, achievable and sustainable.

It isn’t.
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Old 08-02-2016, 06:32 PM
 
Location: The ends DO NOT justify the means!!!
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Either way...even if you ignore earth history and attribute the rapid rise in temperature only to mankind and not the rapid acceleration always seen after an ice age ends...

What is taxation and social engineering going to do? Will it stop global warming? No.

Adapt to the coming tropical earth or colonize space...which is preferable?
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Old 08-02-2016, 06:33 PM
 
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The Earth's climate has been changing since the Earth was first formed, and will continue to change until it is ultimately destroyed.

The only people who even come close to denying that the Earth's climate is naturally in a state of constant change are the AGW alarmists, who appear to believe that a static climate is somehow normal, achievable and sustainable.

It isn’t.
Well said. But the climate before AGW was little ice age should we undo AGW and go back to that? Or should we add more CO2 as a preventative to keep us from going back?
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Old 08-02-2016, 06:35 PM
 
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Either way...even if you ignore earth history and attribute the rapid rise in temperature only to mankind and not the rapid acceleration always seen after an ice age ends...

What is taxation and social engineering going to do? Will it stop global warming? No.

Adapt to the coming tropical earth or colonize space...which is preferable?
You aren't reading it out correctly. The prior peaks in global temps were sharp up and sharp down with peeks not the much above where we are now, but with sea levels 30 feet higher than now. The sharp down is from sea level rise. That has a strong negative feedback loop for warming. It triggers cooling.
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Old 08-02-2016, 06:38 PM
 
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The Earth has warmed since the end of the "little ice age" which lasted from about 1350 to 1850, a time during which glaciers advanced, crop failures increased, deaths from epidemics and plague were common and Washington crossed an ice-choked Delaware river. So, we were due for an upturn and we have gotten it.

Prior to that, we had the medieval warming period, which lasted from 800 to about 1300. This was when the Vikings were the terror of Europe and Greenland was actually green in many places.

So as you can see, the warming we have experienced since the end of the little ice-age is not unusual or unexpected at all.
What were the CO2 levels during those time periods? Did it just "happen" or was there a reason.


Attached is a record for the last 2000 years, 800 to 1300 was not a warming period on average.


Notice the increase in the last 100+ years, that is unexpected and directly correlates with historic atmospheric C02 levels.









Global Warming : Feature Articles
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Old 08-02-2016, 06:38 PM
 
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Unbelievable....I guess that you don't know that when it's summer in the northern hemisphere it's winter in the south....I am always amazed at the ignorance of some climate change deniers....

It is not weather, it's climate....Please learn the difference. Earth broke dozens of climate records last year, annual 'checkup' shows - Technology & Science - CBC News
So it doesn't get warm in the summer in the northern hemisphere?

So now temperatures are climate change yet summer is when it's warm. Or cold depending on where you live.

But keep changing the argument. If you can't convince them with lunacy, dazzle them with BS.
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Old 08-02-2016, 06:39 PM
 
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That depends on how many stupid people are on the planet.
Hey, you seem to be the one who believes this link cure.
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Old 08-02-2016, 06:45 PM
 
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You can go back to the stone age if you like, I suggest also to stay off this thread if you find it boring..
my my arent we getting testy

you keep pushing the "global warming" agenda, and you keep getting no where with it. why? because the reality is its bullcrap and you know it. you just need to follow the money and find out what is really going on, and it isnt climate change, its about control. government control of the people. and if you would pull your head out of your backside long enough to look around and see what is really going on, you might just realize this as well.
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Old 08-02-2016, 06:48 PM
 
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Our world is sick...Does anyone care? ........
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No, global warming is not making the world more productive...It may be just the opposite in fact. Global Warming Effects on Food
Interesting website ^ thanks for posting it.

Sanspeur I don't think the world is sick. It just seems like it's going out of balance to humans. I think our planet is doing exactly what it's supposed to do to correct all the consequences of a sudden over-population of humans messing it up. It may take awhile, and of course there will be some unavoidable collateral damage to many other species and habitats but climate change is going to knock off a lot of humans. That is what needs to happen and once the human population has become reduced substantially due to attrition caused by climate change Earth will get back into natural balance again.

I don't have a problem with the human population decreasing by at least 50%, hopefully more like 70%.

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Old 08-02-2016, 06:51 PM
 
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You aren't reading it out correctly. The prior peaks in global temps were sharp up and sharp down with peeks not the much above where we are now, but with sea levels 30 feet higher than now. The sharp down is from sea level rise. That has a strong negative feedback loop for warming. It triggers cooling.
What does that have to do with this:



We either adapt to an earth much much warmer than it is today or we colonize space...neither of which requires taxation on fossil fuels (which are running out shortly) or social engineering by thugs and tyrants...
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