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View Poll Results: How do we fix it?
Reduce cost of living adjustments 4 7.27%
Increase payroll taxes on the wealthy 30 54.55%
Increase payroll taxes on the middle class 7 12.73%
Increase payroll taxes on the poor 6 10.91%
Raise maximum amount of income to be taxed 24 43.64%
Raise the retirement age 10 18.18%
Means test benefits for the wealthy 14 25.45%
Reduce benefits for future retirees 3 5.45%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 55. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 08-02-2016, 06:58 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Remove the earnings cap.

That's all that's needed.

Too bad the Pubs always block it. Then whine about social security's future.

Maximum Taxable Earnings (dollars)
Social Security 118,500

https://www.ssa.gov/policy/docs/quic...imits2016.html
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Old 08-02-2016, 06:58 PM
 
Location: DC
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The social security trust fund is projected to become exhausted in 2034, 18 years from now, if no legislation changes the program. After that point, it will only be able to pay around three-fourths of promised benefits. How do we go about fixing it? I am not interested in debating whether or not social security should exist, that is a separate poll if you want to make it, so by answering you are agreeing to the basic premise that social security should be saved at all.
The social security trust fund was always designed to run out of money. Social Security is a pay as you go system, but the baby boomers were going to put a strain on it so the Trust Fund was set up to pay the bulge in retirement benefits associated with baby boomers. When it is exhausted we just go back to the original system. Easy Peasy.
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Old 08-02-2016, 09:03 PM
 
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The social security trust fund was always designed to run out of money. Social Security is a pay as you go system, but the baby boomers were going to put a strain on it so the Trust Fund was set up to pay the bulge in retirement benefits associated with baby boomers. When it is exhausted we just go back to the original system. Easy Peasy.

Eh. I disagree. Social security will be an increasing percentage of federal outlays for the foreseeable future. It does need a trust fund. And said trust fund will deplete while plenty of boomers are still drawing benefits if nothing changes.

I do think SS needs to be sustainable outside of the normal budget, which is rife with insanity.
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Old 08-02-2016, 09:08 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Stop borrowing from SS to fund WARS!

there's a wild idea


The idiot liberals, think it has it's own separate bank account
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Old 08-02-2016, 09:30 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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Stop wars...
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Old 08-02-2016, 09:43 PM
 
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Phase it out. Yes it's a Ponzi and no the govt isn't authorized to force a retirement scheme on the people
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Old 08-02-2016, 09:44 PM
 
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Remove the earnings cap.

That's all that's needed.

Too bad the Pubs always block it. Then whine about social security's future.

Maximum Taxable Earnings (dollars)
Social Security 118,500

https://www.ssa.gov/policy/docs/quic...imits2016.html
Yes steal more money. Sounds like a sound plan any thief would agree with.
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Old 08-03-2016, 05:37 AM
 
Location: U.S.
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Default Raising caps not the answer

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Remove the earnings cap.

That's all that's needed.

Too bad the Pubs always block it. Then whine about social security's future.

Maximum Taxable Earnings (dollars)
Social Security 118,500

https://www.ssa.gov/policy/docs/quic...imits2016.html
But there is a max payout. So with a max payout why would we require some rich tax payers to pay five or six times more just to get the same max payout?

Social security is not an entitlement program because every worker pays into it throughout their lives. Then they get money back ( at a much higher return) whether they pass a means test or not.

** props to the poll for allowing multiple solutions**
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Old 08-03-2016, 05:44 AM
 
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a ponzi scheme - right. people have been paying into SS their whole working lives only to have it raped and pillaged by the gov't to fund wars.
Some are so SINGLE minded it makes me laugh!
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Old 08-03-2016, 05:46 AM
 
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Scrap the cap. A big reason for the lack of funds is because of the massive transfer of wealth from the middle to the top. And the top dont pay it.

Today the cap is 118k. This is absurd. Make everyone pay the same rate, but benefits should have a max cap.
"And the top dont pay it."

You are consistent.

ANOTHER claim you have made with NOTHING to back it up!
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