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Old 08-03-2016, 11:33 AM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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Originally Posted by michiganmoon View Post
WSJ said as much.

The money has been frozen for decades - the issue is the timing. Did US hostages play a role.

This isn't a hard concept to grasp.
Ok... and?

 
Old 08-03-2016, 11:42 AM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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Originally Posted by Dbones View Post
We removed the sanctions in the deal so it would have been perfectly legal to electronically transfer the money in US dollars and they wouldn't have to access "world" banks, they would have had it transferred right to their own banks.


Actually, upon further investigation, it would appear you're wrong.




"...It remains illegal for the U.S. to conduct a monetary transaction with Iran in American dollars..."


$400M Payment to Iran as Americans Freed Not a Ransom: White House - NBC News
 
Old 08-03-2016, 11:45 AM
 
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You can spin this and whitewash it any way you like, but it's still a ransom payment.
agree, there's not a snowballs chance in hell its anything but.
 
Old 08-03-2016, 11:49 AM
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Ill bet you wont find any traces of this story on the Clinton News Network.
Wrong. I just got back from CNN Center, and they were reporting it.
 
Old 08-03-2016, 11:49 AM
 
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Originally Posted by katygirl68 View Post
So, before the deal they removed the sanctions that had been working. They allowed Iran to keep their nuclear enrichment program. And they allowed them back into the world market. They acknowledge that Iran can achieve nuclear power in a decade.

Meanwhile, during the deal the Iranians took Navy sailors hostage and even made a statue of it, chanted Death to America, and gave up absolutely nothing. And we couldn't even get our prisoners released without paying them?

Remind me again what's so great about this deal.

It never made any sense to me either.
 
Old 08-03-2016, 11:54 AM
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444 days. we refunded money to people who took 55 hostages and held them for nearly two years.
444 days is not almost two years. It's 1.2 years. Holding hostages for any amount of time is unacceptable, but you don't need to exaggerate.
 
Old 08-03-2016, 12:13 PM
 
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Originally Posted by EddieB.Good View Post
Ok... and?
Timing.

That is the issue Democrats can't seem to comprehend as they ignore it and it was ignored by the person I replied to. Did they get the $400,000,000.00 for their release?


Carter kept the money frozen.

Reagan kept the money frozen.

Bush Senior kept the money frozen.

Clinton kept the money frozen.

W. Bush kept the money frozen.

Obama for 7.5 years kept the money frozen.

US hostages are taken by Iran and the money is unfrozen by Obama.


The concern isn't so much Obama lying, we are all use to that if we are being honest, it is whether or not a policy of paying out money for hostages is wise or if it encourages more hostage taking.

Now perhaps Obama is being honest and it is just a coincidence that the money was sent while Iran had US hostages, but even that is questionable policy for the above stated reasons of rewarding hostage taking.
 
Old 08-03-2016, 12:35 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Iran took 3 more hostages, after this payoff ransom...


And it starts
 
Old 08-03-2016, 01:00 PM
 
Location: USA
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Originally Posted by DCforever View Post
1. It wasn't secret.

2. It was some of the money we seized from Iran in 1979.

3. The money belongs to Iran.
As far as most of us are concerned we can keep what ever money we confiscated as Reparations for Iran taking our hostages. Too bad Obama views Iran more favorably then his own country...cough cough.
 
Old 08-03-2016, 01:09 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Originally Posted by Tyster View Post
You can spin this and whitewash it any way you like, but it's still a ransom payment.

Spin: "Obama paid Iran $400 million to get our hostages released!"

Reality: The hostages are home and it didn't cost us a penny.
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