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The GOP created Trump, and the media feeds him. They have courted the far right fringe so long that now it defines their party. They are now the new "Dixiecrats". the party of Lincoln, the party that was instrumental in passing the civil rights law and the voting rights laws no longer exists.
So, they may not have gotten what they wanted, but they certainly got what they deserve.
Unfortunately, the country is not getting what it deserves with either candidate (which is more of what I'm concerned with).
I do think you're right about that, but I also realize that many of us won't be alive by that point.
Its all about incremental gains. There is no way to change our current system in any drastic short term way, its too much of a behemoth...baby steps at this point.
I've always found the hypocrisy most amusing. You have an inordinate amount of people constantly fanning the flames of class envy. They complain about corporations and the wealthy, but what's the first thing they do when given the opportunity? Vote for anything that subsidizes them. And who gets left holding the bag? The Middle Class. And if you just happen to be in the Middle Class and live in a high cost of living area (i.e. SF, NY, Honolulu), you get double screwed as the tax code never takes COL into account. And then you get the pompous people that tell you "too bad", you need to move (despite the fact that you've grew up and have lived in an area most of your life) because apparently it's their god given right to loot you of your money.
Problem is the middle class doesn't run for office- ( presidential) you MUST be wealthy to sit on that throne
The "country" consists of thugs and tyrants voting for thugs and tyrants that will impose their personal will upon their neighbor. The "country" deserves whatever thugs and tyrants come to power that represent their own individual immorality in using aggression, violence, and coercion to impose their personal will upon their neighbor. We deserve to be victimized by "our" government, because we all use government to victimize others...
The GOP created Trump, and the media feeds him. They have courted the far right fringe so long that now it defines their party. They are now the new "Dixiecrats". the party of Lincoln, the party that was instrumental in passing the civil rights law and the voting rights laws no longer exists.
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Originally Posted by phetaroi
Perhaps the country is getting exactly what it deserves.
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Originally Posted by irspow
The "country" consists of thugs and tyrants voting for thugs and tyrants that will impose their personal will upon their neighbor. The "country" deserves whatever thugs and tyrants come to power that represent their own individual immorality in using aggression, violence, and coercion to impose their personal will upon their neighbor. We deserve to be victimized by "our" government, because we all use government to victimize others...
That "far right fringe" is a long way from monolithic; the "mainstream conservative" (??) movement focuses on any number of issues -- firearm ownership rights, open-market economics, the unrealistic expectations of the Religious Right. and many more.
I became aware of the libertarian movement in the spring of 1968, a full four years before the establishment of the Libertarian Party. Our first struggles were as secular conservatives, often inspired by the Objectivist writings of Ayn Rand (and various acolytes, including Alan Greenspan) against the "God and Country -- right or wrong" doctrines of the social conservatives. Now, while many of us retain our suspicions toward legislated morality and censorship, we find ourselves depicted as "soft on druggies" -- more often than not by the New Puritans rallying around Nanny Clinton.
The point being: Individual freedom also calls for individual responsibility; Big Brother / Sister can't be expected to save us from ourselves. But that is a point that seldom resonates well in our oversheltered and oversensitized society.
That "far right fringe" is a long way from monolithic; the "mainstream conservative" (??) movement focuses on any number of issues -- firearm ownership rights, open-market economics, the unrealistic expectations of the Religious Right. and many more.
I became aware of the libertarian movement in the spring of 1968, a full four years before the establishment of the Libertarian Party. Our first struggles were as secular conservatives, often inspired by the Objectivist writings of Ayn Rand (and various acolytes, including Alan Greenspan) against the "God and Country -- right or wrong" doctrines of the social conservatives. Now, while many of us retain our suspicions toward legislated morality and censorship, we find ourselves depicted as "soft on druggies" -- more often than not by the New Puritans rallying around Nanny Clinton.
The point being: Individual freedom also calls for individual responsibility; Big Brother / Sister can't be expected to save us from ourselves. But that is a point that seldom resonates well in our oversheltered and oversensitized society.
The only absolute "responsibility" of a free moral person is to not use aggression against any other person...
The only "responsibility" of "government" is to be a retaliatory force against those who use aggression upon another...
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There are other choices but they won't win.
