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Old 08-04-2016, 06:45 AM
 
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Well these multicultural Utopias allow immigrants to move in, get on welfare, while some literally preach the destruction of the very society that feeds them at the entrances of the subway.

Hey...that sounds like our country !!
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Old 08-04-2016, 06:48 AM
 
Location: zooland 1
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Yep...being slaughtered has a way of changing directions...

Thank you "ethnic diversity"

Now..if it's up to Hilary we'll have a free Isis in every home in Amerika
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Old 08-04-2016, 06:54 AM
 
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Well these multicultural Utopias allow immigrants to move in, get on welfare, while the preach the destruction of the very society that feeds them.
Jeez louise; you boobs cannot view an event without the derision so often heard from stupid gun hugging Americans.

Facts:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...ted_death_rate

.23 compared to 10.54 deaths per 100,000. Are you idiots even able to discern the relevance?

The U.K. has experienced BOTH far fewer firearm related deaths or terrorism related deaths.

Ergo; idiots on this side of the pond are merely chuffing over the fact the U.K. are still heads and shoulders smarter for having avoided something America has wallowed in for the better part of two hundred years.

Yep, the jokes on them for not having the millions of aggregate deaths America has to it's credit.

The twin towers involved over 3400 deaths of innocent people in one event but America still experienced more killings by firearms wielded by it's home grown criminals that year. Still think you've been smarter?

Cripes you people beggar the imagination as to how anyone can be so ineffably stupid!
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Old 08-04-2016, 07:04 AM
 
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Jeez louise; you boobs cannot view an event without the derision so often heard from stupid gun hugging Americans.

Facts:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...ted_death_rate

.23 compared to 10.54 deaths per 100,000. Are you idiots even able to discern the relevance?

The U.K. has experienced BOTH far fewer firearm related deaths or terrorism related deaths.

Ergo; idiots on this side of the pond are merely chuffing over the fact the U.K. are still heads and shoulders smarter for having avoided something America has wallowed in for the better part of two hundred years.

Yep, the jokes on them for not having the millions of aggregate deaths America has to it's credit.

The twin towers involved over 3400 deaths of innocent people in one event but America still experienced more killings by firearms wielded by it's home grown criminals that year. Still think you've been smarter?

Cripes you people beggar the imagination as to how anyone can be so ineffably stupid!



What difference does it make what name is in front of "violence" , firearm or knife...violence is still violence.


http://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime...w-8681511.html

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattves...rging-n2026497

https://www.gov.uk/government/polici...and-gang-crime


What seems to be the common denominator ? Hmmm... it certainly isn't the tool used is it ?
And while you are looking down your nose at the U.S. , why again our your "bobbies" being armed ?
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Old 08-04-2016, 07:11 AM
 
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.23 compared to 10.54 deaths per 100,000. Are you idiots even able to discern the relevance?
This idiot is able to discern that 2/3 of those American deaths are suicides and have no place in discussions of gun violence.

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The twin towers involved over 3400 deaths of innocent people in one event
I think you'll find that the actual figure is just shy of 3000.
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Old 08-04-2016, 10:05 AM
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I think this needs to be looked at in perspective, as the police in Great Britain and more especially London have a long history of having access to firearms and today far fewer officers are trained in the use of firearms than in previous decades when training was far less rigorous and guns could be signed out of police station armouries as required.

In the 1960's around 17% of London's Police, nearly one in five was trained to use a firearm and could sign one out of the police armoury, today the figure is less than 10% and that's with the current increase to 2,800 Firearms Officers. The increase to 2,800 taking London back to the levels of armed police in 2012 when London hosted the Olympics, after which through short sightedness there were cuts to armed police numbers.

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Originally Posted by Firearms Command - Metropolitan Police

Society has, over recent years, been debating the issues around fully arming the police in response to increasing armed crime, some of which have include several high profile incidents.

Actually, this issue has been debated for over a hundred years. In fact the Metropolitan Police back in 1884, after the murders of two constables, were given permission from the Commissioner of the day, to carry revolvers during uniformed night time patrols. These were called 'Comforters' and each Officer would make up their own mind if they wished to carry them. This was the nearest we have ever been to a fully armed service and that was over a hundred years ago.

This remained the case until 1936 when the revolvers were taken off the constables and kept locked in a cupboard back at the station. If they had 'good reason' for having a revolver they would have to get permission from their Station Sergeant.

Firearms Command History - Metropolitan Police Service
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Originally Posted by Police Firearms History - Police Firearms Officers Association

Historically, officers on night patrols in some London divisions were frequently armed with Webley revolvers. These were introduced following the murder of two officers in 1884, although individual officers were able to choose whether to carry the weapons.

After the Battle of Stepney in 1911, Webley semi-automatics were issued to officers, armed police were rare by the turn of the century, and were retired formally in July 1936.

From that point on, firearms could only be issued by a Sergeant with good reason, and only then to officers who had been trained in their usage.The issue of routine arming was raised after the 1952 Derek Bentley case where a Constable was shot dead and a Sergeant severely wounded, and again after the 1966 Massacre of Braybrook Street, in which three London officers were killed.

As a result, around 17% of officers in London became authorised to carry firearms. After the deaths of a number of members of the public in the 1980s fired upon by police, control was considerably tightened, many officers had their firearm authorisation revoked, and training for the remainder was greatly improved.

Police Firearms History - Police Firearms Officers Association
However one new development is the use of firearms officers on off road Motorcycles in London, a similar tactic used by the Yassam (Israel Police Special Patrol Unit). The Police in the UK are also backed up by UK Military Special Forces, who also patrol certain areas and are on continous standby.

London anti-terror police revealed with motorbikes, sniper rifles and kelvar body armour | London | News | London Evening Standard

Armed police will use motorcycles in response to a London terror attack

Yassam - Wiki


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Old 08-04-2016, 10:23 AM
 
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Originally Posted by BruSan View Post
Jeez louise; you boobs cannot view an event without the derision so often heard from stupid gun hugging Americans.

Facts:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...ted_death_rate

.23 compared to 10.54 deaths per 100,000. Are you idiots even able to discern the relevance?

The U.K. has experienced BOTH far fewer firearm related deaths or terrorism related deaths.

Ergo; idiots on this side of the pond are merely chuffing over the fact the U.K. are still heads and shoulders smarter for having avoided something America has wallowed in for the better part of two hundred years.

Yep, the jokes on them for not having the millions of aggregate deaths America has to it's credit.

The twin towers involved over 3400 deaths of innocent people in one event but America still experienced more killings by firearms wielded by it's home grown criminals that year. Still think you've been smarter?

Cripes you people beggar the imagination as to how anyone can be so ineffably stupid!
Guns are not illegal in the UK, so the lower rate has nothing to do with access or the number of guns.
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Old 08-04-2016, 10:54 AM
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Location: Great Britain
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So instead of coming 30 minutes late to the crime scene now they will be 15 minutes late.
To be fair, Armed Police were on the scene within 6 minutes from receiving a call and arrested the man.

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Originally Posted by The Telegraph

Armed police were called at 10.33 pm after a man armed with a knife started to attack people in London's Russell Square.

Armed police arrived at the scene within six minutes of the attack and arrested a 19-year-old man after Tasering him.

London knife attack: Everything we know about the Russell Square stabbings on Thursday morning
The Police have also used knife arches and scanners across the London Transport System for many years now. I am just thankful that this man couldn't get a gun or the death and injury would be many more fold.

BBC NEWS | UK | England | London | Crime falls on London transport

BBC NEWS | UK | Knife scanners to be used UK-wide

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Old 08-04-2016, 11:00 AM
 
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Well these multicultural Utopias allow immigrants to move in, get on welfare, while some literally preach the destruction of the very society that feeds them at the entrances of the subway.
Try to be more subtle with your racism, Make America White Again has not won yet....
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Old 08-04-2016, 11:03 AM
 
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Originally Posted by BruSan View Post
Jeez louise; you boobs cannot view an event without the derision so often heard from stupid gun hugging Americans.

Facts:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...ted_death_rate

.23 compared to 10.54 deaths per 100,000. Are you idiots even able to discern the relevance?

The U.K. has experienced BOTH far fewer firearm related deaths or terrorism related deaths.

Ergo; idiots on this side of the pond are merely chuffing over the fact the U.K. are still heads and shoulders smarter for having avoided something America has wallowed in for the better part of two hundred years.

Yep, the jokes on them for not having the millions of aggregate deaths America has to it's credit.

The twin towers involved over 3400 deaths of innocent people in one event but America still experienced more killings by firearms wielded by it's home grown criminals that year. Still think you've been smarter?

Cripes you people beggar the imagination as to how anyone can be so ineffably stupid!
I am stupid?

Your entire post is a strawman argument against BS I've never said.

I said the whole line of unarmed Bobbies is going away.

London wakes to greater police presence after Russell Square attack
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