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They may not be "better off", but they still see themselves as "better".
I don't know if I'd agree with that assessment. I'd say it's highly variable based on the person's background.
I know that where I'm from, wealthy higher class whites interact far less with blacks than do working class, poorer whites. IME poorer whites are both more likely to be abject racists and more likely to consider blacks as equals. The close proximity yields stronger views, one way or another.
Wealthier whites OTOH tend to quietly keep blacks at a distance, regardless of the whites' political leaning.
Every city with a large minority population by percentage is a crime ridden hellhole. Hence why people move to places with tiny minority populations. Minority being black.
Atlanta has a lot of wealthy large minority population suburbs where the men are married and well-employed.
Crime ridden hellholes have a large population of young males who are unmarried, unemployed, and unenrolled in school.
I catch what you're saying, I forgot about the "sundown towns". Tho to be fair: us "Irish" even in the 20th Century ALSO had to put up with a lot of that same kind of prejudice along with Jews cause we weren't counted as "white" then.
I clicked on several towns listed, and many on the list are just "suspected" and not proven, and were apparently listed just because there were no blacks in earlier censuses Well, from what I have gathered just from reading and traveling, that happened frequently in very small towns just because of their nature -- because they were far from cities and somewhat isolated and sparsely settled, anyway.
However, that being said, I do know that there were sundown towns because I lived in one of them, although I didn't find that out until years later. (Torrance, CA in the mid-80's. I was shocked to discover that it was routine in earlier years to "send" blacks to nearby Lomita.)
I also know of one that was NOT listed on the map in Ohio, although that was a community within a large town, so I don't know if that would "count." This was in 1962, when I went to visit someone who lived there with my aunt, and she told me. Even at eight years old, I was so outraged by that, and I remember that my aunt just said something like, "There are a lot of things in life that aren't fair, honey."
I would bet that there were "white only" communities within or nearby every large city, and I know that white only country clubs used to be very common.
Wealthier whites OTOH tend to quietly keep blacks at a distance, regardless of the whites' political leaning.
I think I know what you are saying, but I don't think it is intentional. If blacks can afford to move to wealthier neighborhoods, based on my experience, they are accepted by whites just as much as other whites are. Imo, wealthier whites don't move from non-whites as much as they move to better (nicer, quieter) neighborhoods.
I live in an almost entirely white middle-to-upper-middle neighborhood, and as far as I have observed, the whites here are just as pleasant to and accepting of the black and "mixed" families as they are to everyone else in the neighborhood, with the kids all playing together (of course). So this just reinforces my stance that privilege and acceptance have more to do with socioeconomic status than with color, at least in California, and Colorado, where I have spent most of my adult life.
However, Alabama was a completely different story when I lived there in 1973-4, but I can only hope that has changed in the past 40 years!
Scottsdale: it's "money privilege", NOT "white privilege" cause IF you're Black and are loaded, you're "in". OTOH a poor anglo white person is "out" even tho that city's mostly anglo white.
Which communities in Michigan with a large minority presence are "better" by any standard? Which majority minority community do you hope to live in?
Who said anything about majority minority? I don't think the population of Michigan is majority minority in most regions.
But if you're in a region that is 10 percent black, and there are several areas in that region that are 1 percent or less black, that's a sign that they're not welcome and of deliberate steering.
Most white people I came across feel guilty & apologetic. They over compensate & are really nice. But I am middle class & interact only with educated crowd so I cant speak for everyone. I have people in my own family who discriminated & treated me badly but since I moved to usa I haven't faced more than an occasional passing comment that I could easily ignore. 99% of people I come across here are very polite & friendly. Andthat includes all the races. It also depends on your region as well because some states are not as polite as others. I actually feel very uncomfortable & home sick when I visit my country & I hardly have any friends here who are same nationality as me. I had no problem fitting in. You have to keep an open mind & not be judgemental. Ironically I get along with other races just fine but run into issues with my own kind.
If you don't mind my askinng, where are you from originally?
Its "privileged" to celebrate Thankgiving now? Dear God help us...
Of course not, but it is an example of something that people understand by virtue of being American, and it applies regardless of race or ethnicity.
Another example that might be a little controversial is that many black posters here have commented that they're made to feel like they're black first and American second, except when they are around internationals or out or the country. As a white guy, I've generally taken being American as a given except around internationals or if out of the country. So I wonder if this feeling that many black people have about only being viewed as black is ironically partially the result of American privilege, and whether black people from other countries have different experiences in that regard. But I don't want to speak for anybody else on that subject; it's just a thought.
Read "White Privilege: Unpacking the Invisible Knapsack" by Peggy McIntosh. (I would post a link, but it looks like the article has strict copyright laws about sharing it, so to save myself and C-D, I will not post it. You can find it on a Google search though. )
White privilege does not mean that being white privileges people in all situations, or that white people aren't going to face unfair situations, or that people of color can't be successful, or anything like that. It simply refers to contexts where white people will not experience the same negative things as people of color will due to race.
Here are some examples:
A white person can be pulled over unfairly by the police.
A white person who is pulled over unfairly by the police will likely be pulled over by an officer of the same race, and will most likely not wonder whether (s)he was targeted due to his/her race.
A person of color who is pulled over unfairly by the police will in many situations be pulled over by a white officer and will wonder whether (s)he was targeted due to his/her race.
A poor white person cannot afford to live in a wealthy neighborhood.
A poor person of color cannot afford to live in a wealthy neighborhood.
A white person with the means can choose to live in a wealthy neighborhood without fear of harassment or not being included due to his/her race.
A person of color with the means, if (s)he chooses to live in a wealthy neighborhood, will have to look out for and possibly contend with harassment or not being included due to his/her race.
Hopefully that clears it up.
By the same token, a poor white person faces extreme harassment and sometimes exclusion if he/she lives in a low income neighborhood, just because of race. I think it depends on where and who though.
My privilege is to have to go to work everyday....When do I get time to protest and stuff? How the heck are people paying their bills when they are always protesting????
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