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The problem is we haven't been enforcing the laws for a while and it will be costly no matter if you do amnesty or deportation, more so the latter.
Then we will see if Americans actually want to pay more money for housing and other goods that are made with cheap labor domestically.
You don't really need to spend the money on deportations, not that I think that would be as costly as some make it out to be. Just spend a little money on E-Verify, and strongly enforce that. If they can't get jobs, they will leave on their own.
You don't really need to spend the money on deportations, not that I think that would be as costly as some make it out to be. Just spend a little money on E-Verify, and strongly enforce that. If they can't get jobs, they will leave on their own.
Quite untrue. First you would have to pass legislation that gave E-Verify some teeth and got rid of the built in let outs. Ain't gonna happen. The US business community is totally opposed and has the clout to prevent it.
Second a tight E-Verify would mostly move more illegals to the underground economy. Almost half are there already.
The cost of illegals in NJ and elsewhere is always vastly over estimated. It includes the cost of the children of illlegals who are American Citizens. That is a good check on the honesty of the source. Those used by the RW inevitably include the costs of legal children. Why? Because it is most of the cost of the illegal families and the cost becomes negligible if you don't include the legal citizen children.
You don't really need to spend the money on deportations, not that I think that would be as costly as some make it out to be. Just spend a little money on E-Verify, and strongly enforce that. If they can't get jobs, they will leave on their own.
We'd have to go further than that to prevent further illegal immigration. They should be denied any benefits and birthright citizenship for their kids also as that would cut off all means to support themselves.
We'd have to go further than that to prevent further illegal immigration. They should be denied any benefits and birthright citizenship for their kids also as that would cut off all means to support themselves.
Yes. In this day and age, birthright citizenship is insane. I see it every day on my labor and delivery floor. We have so many people from all over the world that barely speak English, if at all, with a local motel listed as their address. They always pay in cash. I know of several OB/GYNs that advertise in foreign countries. People come here to have their "American" babies, and then go right back to their home country afterwards, but their child is a citizen now.
Quite untrue. First you would have to pass legislation that gave E-Verify some teeth and got rid of the built in let outs. Ain't gonna happen. The US business community is totally opposed and has the clout to prevent it.
Second a tight E-Verify would mostly move more illegals to the underground economy. Almost half are there already.
The cost of illegals in NJ and elsewhere is always vastly over estimated. It includes the cost of the children of illlegals who are American Citizens. That is a good check on the honesty of the source. Those used by the RW inevitably include the costs of legal children. Why? Because it is most of the cost of the illegal families and the cost becomes negligible if you don't include the legal citizen children.
Define underground? Do you mean jobs in illegal enterprises, or do you mean paid in cash under the table? If the latter, wouldn't these employers be held to the same penalties as W2s and 1099s? Make the penalties high enough and those employers won't risk it, will they?
Also, please explain to me the "built in let outs".
The problem is we haven't been enforcing the laws for a while and it will be costly no matter if you do amnesty or deportation, more so the latter.
Then we will see if Americans actually want to pay more money for housing and other goods that are made with cheap labor domestically.
Illegals cost us $113 billion a year in taxes and their greedy employers just pass their social costs on to we the taxpayer, not any savings on housing or other goods. They merely pocket the profits from their cheap workforce. In reality without illegal aliens in our workforce when you factor in all of the above we actually would be paying less for goods, etc. and Americans would get their jobs back at a fair wage and once contributing to our tax coffers and economy.
The U.S. born children of illegal aliens must be calculated into the illegal immigration costs because if the parents weren't here illegally in the first place those kids wouldn't have been born on our soil and therefore tapping into our welfare coffers.
Define underground? Do you mean jobs in illegal enterprises, or do you mean paid in cash under the table? If the latter, wouldn't these employers be held to the same penalties as W2s and 1099s? Make the penalties high enough and those employers won't risk it, will they?
Also, please explain to me the "built in let outs".
Something like 45% of illegals are off the books. Paid in cash under the table. Virtually impossible to stop unless you do away with contractors and sub-contractors. You bust the sub and a new LLC the next day and everyone back to work. Sub has a staff of 12...8 legal, 4 illegal. Who is working on which day? And in Hispanic construction everyone is often related.
You would have to change the penalties. You can't.
The let out is that one must prove the employer knows the employee is illegal. That is not going to change either. But it is close to impossible to prove except in a few cases where an institutional entity gets caught doing it on a large scale. And again the employer hires through an expendible sub-contractor.
Illegals cost us $113 billion a year in taxes and their greedy employers just pass their social costs on to we the taxpayer, not any savings on housing or other goods. They merely pocket the profits from their cheap workforce. In reality without illegal aliens in our workforce when you factor in all of the above we actually would be paying less for goods, etc. and Americans would get their jobs back at a fair wage and once contributing to our tax coffers and economy.
More BS. You pull out the illegals you lose 10 million consumers and drop the GDP a couple of percent. Virtually guaranteed. If you replace them with legal immigrants the cost goes right back up where it was and then some.
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