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We either follow the Constitution or we don't. Many people on the right pay lip service to "following the constitution" but in reality they don't believe in religious liberty when it goes against their own views.
The context of liberty for, say, the kind of people who have tended to rally around politicians like Ted Cruz or Rick Santorum, is the freedom of politically conservative Christians to never be exposed to anything they can scorn as unbiblical or, you bet, "liberal". Some of the biggest frauds on the political landscape, can't ****ing stand them.
A Pakistani owned a gas station in my county, and after 9-11, he was terrorized...threatened, windows shot out. And he wasn't even a MUSLIM. He had brown skin and talked funny, reason enough for some people. But the townsfolk where I live cannot STAND Muslims. They'd be snubbed at best, harassed and threatened at worst, and "no one would see anything".
Islam beliefs are contrary to Western Thinking, example Shari law. Radical Islam does not help the perception of Islam and the World is cautious.
I think that's the key: caution. good vetting. And expect assimilation and loyalty. We are, after all, the "melting pot" and should continue to be that.
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Originally Posted by Steve40th
I have no problem with mosques etc etc popping up. What I want is people to assimilate to our ideals and country.. No problem bringing culture. I love other countries cultures, food, art, music etc etc.. But, dont bring Sharia law, for example, and expect it to be accepted here. Thats one example.
Welcome to America, and here is our Constitution, learn it and love it..
Yes, learn the Constitution and love it -- be respectful of it and don't misuse it in a way that goes against the spirit of it. It is a beautiful document which can be turned, twisted, abused in ways it wasn't intended to. We need to remember the intent of the framers, and oppression of one group by another was never the intent. Radical Islam and Sharia are severely oppressive and incompatible with the Constitution.
As for the mosques, I don't care if they are there as long as they are not radicalizing, recruiting, teaching and encouraging overthrow of the country they live in. That would, of course, require that we monitor them which presents a whole new set of problems.
The pro-warmongering idiots of both parties start unprovoked wars that have killed and displaced countless of people in the ME then they complain about the millions of refugees their wars have created. Many muslim refugees coming to the west are no doubt seeking vengeance against the western infidels who have destroyed their lives, and thousands of western victims of terror attacks are now paying the price. If there were any justice Bush, Cheney and Hillary Clinton (who voted for war) would be tried for war crimes then handed over to ISIS.
To be fair, the wars in Syria and Sudan have been civil wars.
The problem with mosques is that the majority of them preach jihad and hate for the Infidels.
Funding of mosques with foreign Saudi money should be stopped.
The lack of moral obligation to non-Muslims is the problem with modern Islam, which like the Saudi government itself, is fundamentally radical. Moderate Muslims are moderate because of their own will (see: heresy), wherever they find it, to adapt to the world around them, not from the unreformed teachings of Islam.
A cultural revolution of sorts, yes... I just hope it happens peacefully, like in Maoist China.
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Originally Posted by Kode
Agreed. The world needs to move toward non-religion or atheism. Religion is the source of plenty of hate, intolerance, strife, and even wars and it's all due to the fact that humans cannot stay with the original intent of a religion and practice it as intended originally. The worldly mind of man will always distort it over time and turn it into its opposite. Buddhist and Hindu sages have always said this will be true, and it is.
We either follow the Constitution or we don't. Many people on the right pay lip service to "following the constitution" but in reality they don't believe in religious liberty when it goes against their own views.
Not wanting mosques or synagogues or churches popping up has nothing to do with following the Constitution or not. Pushing to ban one but not another would be not following the Constitution, but people can disagree, or be against something without banning it.
Why is everything so black and white to liberals? To the left if you don't 100% support something it automatically means you want to ban it, and you wonder why no one wants to even try to compromise with you.
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