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Al Gore, darling of the *******s, was the man responsible for getting China their most favored nation trade status. He was the deciding tie breaking vote. Clinton signed it. NAFTA was George Bush's fault. Now Obama has TPP which Hillary supports and will push. They're all on the SAME TEAM. Trump may or may not be on our side against these people and their trade agreements that benefit the elitist richest 1%, but he's the only game in town. We know Hillary isn't going to stand up to them.
What you are trying to discuss here is hypocrisy. Trump has goods made by Chinese workers while he's full of talk about making more jobs for Americans.
American jobs has been a hot topic ever since 2009. That's a long time.
But I don't see any Chinese made goods gathering dust on the shelves anywhere. So what does that make we citizens, when we holler about another's hypocrisy while ignoring their own?
Palin and simple. If you want more American jobs, you have to buy more American-made goods.
Even when they are harder to find and cost more, or don't have a wide selection. And you have to keep buying them, as many as you can. Every month, every year. For decades to come.
That's the only way to re-grow once-giant industries. Or you can cry about no American jobs and be a hypocrite.
Most of us seem to be more willing to be a hypocrite than to do the harder things. We will all know how serious we actually are about American jobs when we see all the fabric mills open back up and start hiring overtime.
"What you are trying to discuss here is hypocrisy. Trump has goods made by Chinese workers while he's full of talk about making more jobs for Americans."
I see NO hypocrisy.
Trump is acting under the CURRENT conditions.
He WANTS to CHANGE those conditions.
Too many post on here making claims and have NEVER actually heard or read what Trump ACTUALLY says.
"Palin and simple. If you want more American jobs, you have to buy more American-made goods.
AND change the tax codes and get BETTER trade DEALS.
The last four Presidents have sold US assets (blood included) to the highest bidder. Now, many want to add a fifth, and easily the worst of the bunch. It's mind numbing.
Blame whoever you like but the real culprit is the American consumer. They vote with each ching of the cash register. We are now at a point it is almost impossible to find a product made in the USA.
We can blame Trump but it was Slick Willy and NAFTA that killed the good American factory job.
We have a millionaire and a billionaire as presidential candidates. Almost every Congressman is a millionaire.
Do you really believe they are concerned about a decent job for the working folks?
The ignorance on here is astounding.
"it is almost impossible to find a product made in the USA."
The USA is the number TWO manufacturing country in the WORLD.
So the latest Trump attack ad highlights Trump making ties in China, but doesn't mention all the people Trump has employed in the US. So does it make sense for someone that has never produced a job to attack someone that produced thousands simply because PART of their business involved making things overseas?
Is making things overseas even an issue if the system is set up for overseas manufacturing being a competitive advantage? Why should a company be criticized for playing the game in a way that maximizes profit? Is that sorta like criticizing a wealthy person for legally using the tax system to pay the least amount possible?
Guess Hillary didn't know that is one of Donalds talking points.
"To be in business, I have to have all my stuff made somewhere else.... Look at Carrier A/C's We are going to bring those jobs back to America"
Donald Trump doesn't make ties. His dress shirts and ties are (or were) made by PVH Corporation, one of the largest men's clothing manufacturers. As a celebrity, PVH approached Donald Trump, and offered to put his name on a collection of men's dress furnishings. In return, they paid him several million dollars for the use of his name. It was a licensing deal. He had nothing to do with where they were made. I believe 100% of PVH's manufacturing is done overseas. Does anybody remember Regis Philbin ties from a few years ago? or Jerry Garcia ties, or Rush Limbaugh ties? They were all licensed. As celebrities, they were paid for the use of their names. You can dislike Donald Trump for a lot of good reasons, but where the "Donald Trump" ties are made is not one of them.
And hillary wears Armani suits at a cost of over $5,000 that are made in Bangladesh.
I'd LOVE to see during one of the debates where hill brings up Trumps ties that he asks her to take off her jacket and lets see where it was made.
A politician's job is not to create jobs. I'm assuming you're a conservative, though feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, so it's odd that you seem to think a politician should be in the business of creating jobs. In other words, you're saying you support the public sector at least as much as the private sector.
Main point being that it doesn't matter who's made more jobs. They two have never had the same job. To hold Hillary to the business standards of Trump is foolish.
The aren't. The contradiction, as I said, is that he's still a businessman first, despite how he's trying to sell himself. And let's not forget; Donald is a salesman. That's his job. He's paid to sell ****. What does a salesman do? He tries to sell you as much as possible so he can get more out of it. This often can translate into selling something you don't need by making you think you need it.
Donald's entire message unravels when you hold it to any scrutiny. Does he love this country? Probably a little. Most of us do. He's a person after all. But why now? And to keep this short, he's an opportunist. He probably doesn't believe or care about half the stuff he talks about but he knows enough people do.
That comment wasn't directed at you, so you really don't need to defend yourself against it. As I said earlier, you can criticize anyone for whatever reason you want, but you then have to accept that people will then criticize you.
And no, Hillary isn't being a hypocrite on this. Her stance is actually really not hard to get; you're the one doing mental gymnastics to reach a conclusion. She's saying for someone who's critical of policy, like the TTP, that would make it easier and more profitable to send jobs overseas, he sure seems to do it a lot. She doesn't have to have created jobs to make that argument. In fact, it's almost irrelevant who she is in making that comment. Now, you don't have to agree with her sentiment but it would be nice if you had the intellectual maturity to not twist what she's saying into something it's not to help your cause. That's the sort of thing I expect from, well, Hillary Clinton, which I'm sure I could find no better way to insult you than to compare you to her. So that's fun!
She's not a hypocrite for saying this. She's saying Trump is, based on his pro-America value in contrast with his profit first past.
"A politician's job is not to create jobs."
Shall be post ALL the times they have said they will?
And all the times they took CREDIT for the jobs they "created"?
First off, its A LOT more than just ties. Trump has hundreds of products in his collection and Ivanka has nearly 1,000 and not a SINGLE ONE are made in the US! All made in China, Mexico, Bangladesh etc...Hundreds of companies with a lot less money than Trump has have found a way to proudly make their products in the US, even at the cost of profits. Trump doesn't give two shi*s about American workers or American jobs or he would have done the same. Second, Trump has been a businessman most his life, Hillary has been in politics most of hers. Asking if she's ever created a job is about as fair as asking Trump if he's ever written (or sponsored) a bill that has helped Americans. Two different worlds.
"not a SINGLE ONE are made in the US! All made in China, Mexico, Bangladesh etc..."
Maybe, maybe NOT.
Prove it!
"Trump doesn't give two shi*s about American workers or American jobs or he would have done the same."
Again prove it.
Have you personally ever talked with anyone who has done work for the Trump's?
Have you EVER been on one of Trump's job sites her in America and asked the construction workers if they would rather be NOT working?
I read a LOT of "claims" and insults NOT a single fact to back them up.
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