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Old 08-09-2016, 12:11 PM
 
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I've been "invested in"? Hmm.

Too early to make the slavery connection?
Way too early, in fact I would be surprised if you were going to use "slave" correctly. Some of y'all just throw that term around without understanding it.
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Old 08-09-2016, 12:14 PM
 
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What about the non-aggression principle? Where can I find that?
Around a hippie drum circle? I bet the drugs are good too.
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Old 08-09-2016, 12:18 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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Isn't it humans natural right to be able to tell another human, or group of humans NO, without threats of intimidation and violence.

Isn't it a humans natural right to defend themselves from bullies, or be oppressed and enslaved by bondage to the bully?


Why can't you or I say No?
I'd say it's a human's right to grow up.
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Old 08-09-2016, 12:21 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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If your rights infringe on mine, no.

What are you being enslaved by? You have to pay taxes? You can't smoke in a public building? Town says you have to mow your lawn after not doing so for three months?
People like that remind me of the kid who didn't want to do their share of the chores or keep their room in decent shape, or brush their teeth. Living together in any society is a bit of a challenge...a tiny bit.
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Old 08-09-2016, 12:23 PM
 
Location: Houston
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I'd say it's a human's right to grow up.

Unless your mother says in the first two trimesters it is not.
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Old 08-09-2016, 12:24 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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Because you live in a society and you need to obey its laws. If you don't like it, you can immigrate or work in a democratic way to change the law.
It's easier to pout or to lie down on the floor, throw a tantrum, kick and scream that simply follow the law and be involved in responsible local political action.
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Old 08-09-2016, 12:34 PM
 
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Valid point. I'll try to stay more on topic (following this post ).
I'm as guilty as anyone on that count, so...
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Old 08-09-2016, 12:36 PM
 
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I've been "invested in"? Hmm.
Yes. Family and society spent a lot of resources on you. Unless you were left for the wolves, in which case I congratulate you on overcoming adversity.

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Too early to make the slavery connection?
Have at it.
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Old 08-09-2016, 12:40 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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Yes. Family and society spent a lot of resources on you. Unless you were left for the wolves, in which case I congratulate you on overcoming adversity.

Have at it.
So how does a family taking care of me translate to a State taking care of me?
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Old 08-09-2016, 12:42 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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It's easier to pout or to lie down on the floor, throw a tantrum, kick and scream that simply follow the law and be involved in responsible local political action.
It's also easier to bully your way thru life using the State's monopoly to steal/oppress your neighbor instead of engaging in cooperative non-violent measures to coexist.
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