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yes I was in the military, and am a combat vet too. the military as a whole is made up as a whole of 85% republican and libertarians and 15% democrat. very few are liberals, and yes I make a distinction between a liberal and a democrat.
also remember that the president called upon the military to uphold the Constitution and the military thought that the potus was the one going against the Constitution, then the potus might be the one being removed from office.
also remember that this is not 1862 and there is no slavery or some other cause for the potus to rally the military around, and yes a lot of the military do believe in their oath, unlike the potus and other politicians.
so yes you might be right, but you might also be wrong in what the military might do.
Also, it pays to remember that the oath of enlistment also specifies "all enemies foreign and domestic".
We all take (took) that oath very seriously!
South Carolina or Texas, or other states or groups of states
secede from the U.S.
Would you support the Federal armed forces to be sent to
quell the secessionists, if it really does mean killing hundreds
of thousands if not millions of people who do not want to be
in the United States anymore ?
anonymous poll.
Stupid question, because that would not be "Murder."
There is nothing in the constitution to allow a state to leave. Nothing.
So without amending the costitution, to allow it, it's not going to happen.
Late Supreme Court justice Antonin Scalia, argued that the question was not in the realm of legal possibility because 1) the United States would not be party to a lawsuit on the issue 2) the “constitutional†basis of secession had been “resolved by the Civil War,†and 3) there is no right to secede, as the Pledge of Allegiance clearly illustrates through the line “one nation, indivisible.â€
The only option for those states who want to leave is to wait for the collapse of the United States.
But if that happens in another 200 years or so, those states would have bigger problems then the need for independence.
Yeah look at all those Constitutional Federal Laws. They would not even need to leave. They could simply enforce state laws not specifically outlined in the COTUS.
Why does your question assume that the Federal forces would kill civilians? In a similar fashion to the Civil War, the departing states would form their own military, another Confederate Army. There would be no wholesale genocide of rebel civilians, that's ridiculous.
Here's the problem with unilateral secession: everyone born in S.C. or Texas and who reside there is a natural born U.S. citizen. If the state tries to the leave the union, the state is depriving all of their citizens their U.S. citizenship -- some against their will. Thus, the federal government must intervene to protect U.S. citizens who don't want their citizenship revoked.
There's a right way for states to secede, and that's with a Constitutional amendment where the other states grant S.C. or Texas permission to leave. That is the only peaceful way. Otherwise, send in the troops.
No genocide? Towards the end of the Civil War the North burned the South and killed anyone they could, including women and children.
yes I was in the military, and am a combat vet too. the military as a whole is made up as a whole of 85% republican and libertarians and 15% democrat. very few are liberals, and yes I make a distinction between a liberal and a democrat.
also remember that the president called upon the military to uphold the Constitution and the military thought that the potus was the one going against the Constitution, then the potus might be the one being removed from office.
also remember that this is not 1862 and there is no slavery or some other cause for the potus to rally the military around, and yes a lot of the military do believe in their oath, unlike the potus and other politicians.
so yes you might be right, but you might also be wrong in what the military might do.
2nd ID, 3rd Brigade... OIF 1 & 2... We might have crossed paths..
The last company I was in the split between Republican and Democrat was closer to 60% GOP to 40% Democrat. Many of the young enlisted were the Democrats and the old timers were Republicans.. We talked politics all the time but everyone got along for the most part. Different branches and different units varied.
The US military has never removed a President from office. That's not how our country works. We're not Turkey! If a POTUS needs to be removed the civilian police force would be tasked with that duty. But the military has always showed up when they were called by the POTUS. I don't think states will attempt to secede from the nation, this entire conversation is all speculation, but if it came down to it the majority of the military will obey the call from the commander and chief in my opinion..
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