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Old 08-17-2016, 03:15 AM
 
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With a black POTUS, a black AG, many blacks holding high political office, and the excuse is that it is still a 'white system'. With apologies to the many rational black posters here, what would happen if it were a 'black system'?
Baltimore.

 
Old 08-17-2016, 03:58 AM
 
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A person shows whether their lives matter or not by the way they conduct themselves. A person rioting has decided their lives and the lives of those around them do not matter.

amen.


A person holding a gun against a LEO also showed their live does not matter.
 
Old 08-17-2016, 04:27 AM
 
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I do not hate cops. I hate an unfair justice system.
Yes... Sadly cops have been trusted to run that system and 1/2 of them cant be trusted
 
Old 08-17-2016, 06:15 AM
 
Location: Lyon, France, Whidbey Island WA
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The fictional narrative which grew out of a real human disaster (slavery) and now manifests in the inner cities is a testament to the failure of a social experiment. Welfare, Aid to Family With Dependent Children grew from a sincere desire to protect women and children who were widowed. However it soon became a welfare check for more children borne to women whose fathers had long since left. The disaster in the inner cities soon gave rise to American slums with the antecedent unemployment low desire for a better life and the riots which we saw since the 60's. Put the two together and give it a spark (does not matter if the spark is real or not) and you have black youth lawless, unguided by a father's hand and lost floundering in a sea of misery neglect and poverty. Their lives wasted,their futures bleak and their goals nonexistent they thrive on the fringe of societies potentials inside the inner cities of this country. Obama's face became a rallying cry to correct this. A real father who would lead the misguided and unwanted children into the light of jobs and potential. But they were all fooled because this man was also left by his father and fell victim to the same abandonment as those he sought to help. Lost, he sent representatives to a thugs funeral while ignoring that of a General in the US Army. He had to be restrained from visiting the Brown family himself and the hope faded dramatically into the calamity of the abandoned children.

Being left by a parent creates a hole which cannot be filled. Recognized it gives direction and an awareness of the pitfalls. Obama has done neither and his eloquence has not filled anything else but dreams and perhaps that has helped many, but the black youth, young man still resonates with fear, with desperation and aware that they are failing they fail together. It is a lesson for those who say give to others so that they can pull themselves up. Some can't but many more cannot. So when you see an incident blamed for a riot (and worse) recognize that this social phenomenon of looting and burning is more about the loss of the father, or the mother (or both). It is not easily corrected and I fear now is not the time to reconcile it with facts, reason and hope.
 
Old 08-17-2016, 07:27 AM
 
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It didn't take long for the Thugs to identify the Police Officer who shot Smith. He came from that neighborhood and went to high school with Smith. Social Media (Facebook,Twitter) is full of his name, picture, address, phone number & information about his family. Many, Many Threats on their lives. They have been moved out of the area for safety.

“Now y'all see his face if he's seen anywhere in the city drop him,” read one post. Another called for a gun so the person could “shoot him right in his head.”
Others urged restraint, saying to wait for all the facts before making up their minds, and asked people to not “destroy our own communities.”

In the immediate aftermath of the shooting, one Facebook livestream showed a group of men confronting a line of police officers in daylight, for more than 20 minutes. One of them said: “We want blood like ya’ll want it ... eye for an eye. No more peace.”

On Monday afternoon, the District 7 police station was briefly closed because of threats, including shots fired nearby, according to Police Chief Edward Flynn. Police were not sure whether the station was targeted. It reopened later that evening.


Social media threats intensify, focus on Milwaukee officer |USA Today 8/17/16

As for the Investigation - that was Immediately turned over to the State. The officer was wearing an operational body camera, officials said. Both the footage and the autopsy report are in the custody of the Wisconsin Department of Justice’s Division of Criminal Investigation, which has declined to release that information citing the ongoing investigation.

These RIOTs have become standard now - the New Normal. There is really only one way to handle them - the Mayor/Police have to institute an Immediate Curfew - about 8pm or so and announce that anyone on the streets after the curfew goes directly to jail. That is the only thing that keeps the Burning/Looting/Destruction to a minimum.

I lived one of those Curfews for a week back in the early 70's when a Hurricane hit my town. Within an hour of the storm ending, the National Guard was in town and the curfew was announced. It lasted a week until power was back on. It did stop most of the Looting that always happens in these situations.
 
Old 08-17-2016, 11:01 AM
 
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As for the Investigation - that was Immediately turned over to the State. The officer was wearing an operational body camera, officials said. Both the footage and the autopsy report are in the custody of the Wisconsin Department of Justice’s Division of Criminal Investigation, which has declined to release that information citing the ongoing investigation.
This is a part of the problem. Now, I understand that we do not have one big force that does everything the same but when they want the video released, investigation or not they release it.

I've posted on that earlier in this thread.
 
Old 08-17-2016, 11:13 AM
 
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This is a part of the problem. Now, I understand that we do not have one big force that does everything the same but when they want the video released, investigation or not they release it.

I've posted on that earlier in this thread.
well,

One officer was hospitalized after being hit in the head with a brick thrown through the window of a squad car, police said, and three other officers were reported injured. Two police cars were totaled and four were damaged. Six businesses, including the hair salon and an auto parts store, were damaged.

About 10:45 p.m., police clashed with protesters near Sherman Park as protesters blocked a street and threw rocks at officers. At around 12:15 a.m., an officer was taken to the hospital from an injury after a rock went through his car window, and an 18-year-old was also taken to the hospital during the night after being shot hit, police said. A car in the neighborhood was set ablaze for at least 15 minutes before fire officials put it out after 1 a.m.

http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-...nap-story.html

I really don't get it. They are so angry and frustrated, so they terrorize people in their own neighborhood.
 
Old 08-17-2016, 11:29 AM
 
Location: Lyon, France, Whidbey Island WA
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well,

One officer was hospitalized after being hit in the head with a brick thrown through the window of a squad car, police said, and three other officers were reported injured. Two police cars were totaled and four were damaged. Six businesses, including the hair salon and an auto parts store, were damaged.

About 10:45 p.m., police clashed with protesters near Sherman Park as protesters blocked a street and threw rocks at officers. At around 12:15 a.m., an officer was taken to the hospital from an injury after a rock went through his car window, and an 18-year-old was also taken to the hospital during the night after being shot hit, police said. A car in the neighborhood was set ablaze for at least 15 minutes before fire officials put it out after 1 a.m.

Protests in Milwaukee after police shooting: 'The people are fed up' - LA Times

I really don't get it. They are so angry and frustrated, so they terrorize people in their own neighborhood.
Because they are stupid, ignorant and isolated.
 
Old 08-17-2016, 11:47 AM
 
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well,

One officer was hospitalized after being hit in the head with a brick thrown through the window of a squad car, police said, and three other officers were reported injured. Two police cars were totaled and four were damaged. Six businesses, including the hair salon and an auto parts store, were damaged.

About 10:45 p.m., police clashed with protesters near Sherman Park as protesters blocked a street and threw rocks at officers. At around 12:15 a.m., an officer was taken to the hospital from an injury after a rock went through his car window, and an 18-year-old was also taken to the hospital during the night after being shot hit, police said. A car in the neighborhood was set ablaze for at least 15 minutes before fire officials put it out after 1 a.m.

Protests in Milwaukee after police shooting: 'The people are fed up' - LA Times

I really don't get it. They are so angry and frustrated, so they terrorize people in their own neighborhood.
Those who rioted would riot regardless of what the video shows. Still, how would releasing the video impair the ongoing investigation.
 
Old 08-17-2016, 11:49 AM
 
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I really don't get it. They are so angry and frustrated, so they terrorize people in their own neighborhood.
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