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Poor poor snowflakes. Internet trolling and cyberbullying is such a wussified thing to be worried about. I mean really, these people must be afraid of the dark too.
I would in a heartbeat. Sticks and stones and all that. They obviously had mental issues beforehand if words made them kill themselves. The parents should have taught them that being online isn't important and to ignore stuff like that, close the internet browser and MAYBE, just MAYBE get them the help they need for their issues, but nope, just ignore it and blame someone else. Social media is a dysfunctional disease that rots the brain.
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Poor poor snowflakes. Internet trolling and cyberbullying is such a wussified thing to be worried about. I mean really, these people must be afraid of the dark too.
As was made abundantly clear this is not mere trolling or name calling it is a far more sinister level of harrasement bordering on stalking and often involving death threats and rape threats. Indeed in many ways the most extreme trolls are the modern day equivalent of the perverrts who used to mane obscene phone calls, and which was also subject to investigation by the authorities and was never seen as freedom of expression.
Everyone should have a right to a life free from violence and the fear of it, and indeed a right to privacy something already enshrined in Human Rights Law and Data Protection Laws, and when such basic rights are impinged upon then apprioriate action needs to be taken.
As was pointed out in the Guardian Article -
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we don't give up on legislating wrong-doing because it's messy or personal. No one is arguing that people can't say hateful things or call people names; the emails I get calling me a "****" and a "feminazi" are immoral, but they're not (and shouldn't be) illegal. Threats and the invasion of privacy, though, are different – even in the most public of places: your right to be a "creep" doesn't trump everyone else's right to a life free from violence and the fear of it.
The Independent also had a good article regarding the jailing of hate preacher Anjem Choudary who helped indoctrinate young people with his vile Islamic Fundamentalist Doctrine and a man who mocked events like 9/11 and 7/7. I am a pleased Choudary is in jail, yes I am it's where he belongs, you have to draw a line somewhere or you risk the human rights of society at large in relation to terrorism. As the great parliamentarian Edmund Burke once said, “The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.”
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Jailing a person for words they have spoken ought to trouble anyone who believes in liberal democratic values. Yet to protect those very values it is sometimes necessary to be intolerant of intolerance. Many of those to whom Choudary preached his silver-tongued messages of hatred went to Syria to fight with Isis: in short, he persuaded impressionable young men to kill for a perverted vision of Islam. Ultimately, it feels impossible to ignore the conclusion that jail is the very best place for him.
“you have pretty eyes but your fat”
“awesome. but i’m not fat.”
I don't get it.
People used to say similar things to me - pretty but fat and I would say I'm not fat. I was a bit chubby big deal. I knew I wasn't obese or unhealthy so whatever. These kids now really have some problems dealing with words and opinions. They should not have public website profiles if they don't want to fight with the jerks out there.
“you have pretty eyes but your fat”
“awesome. but i’m not fat.”
I don't get it.
People used to say similar things to me - pretty but fat and I would say I'm not fat. I was a bit chubby big deal. I knew I wasn't obese or unhealthy so whatever. These kids now really have some problems dealing with words and opinions. They should not have public website profiles if they don't want to fight with the jerks out there.
Good for you but not all kids know how to 'stand up' for themselves, anecdote does not equal data
and its not just online and its not a new 'snowflake' problem
Suicide is the third leading cause of death among young people, resulting in about 4,400 deaths per year, according to the CDC. For every suicide among young people, there are at least 100 suicide attempts. Over 14 percent of high school students have considered suicide, and almost 7 percent have attempted it.
so yeh, all those kids have mental problems and are little snowflakes that should just close their browsers FFS
Good for you but not all kids know how to 'stand up' for themselves, anecdote does not equal data
and its not just online and its not a new 'snowflake' problem
Suicide is the third leading cause of death among young people, resulting in about 4,400 deaths per year, according to the CDC. For every suicide among young people, there are at least 100 suicide attempts. Over 14 percent of high school students have considered suicide, and almost 7 percent have attempted it.
so yeh, all those kids have mental problems and are little snowflakes that should just close their browsers FFS
That girl did stand up for herself by saying she is not fat. She had a mental/emotional problem to go and commit suicide. We need to recognize these issues in kids.
What is the solution if not helping kids deal with criticism? Kids picking on each other will always exist, we have anti-bullying campaigns, you don't want to stop them from putting themselves out all over the internet, so the only solution is to get them to deal with it in better way and using examples of people in the same situation who overcame it is not the worst thing. We use inspirational human stories all the time of people overcoming obstacles but it is taboo to do so with bullying?
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That girl did stand up for herself by saying she is not fat. She had a mental/emotional problem to go and commit suicide. We need to recognize these issues in kids.
What is the solution if not helping kids deal with criticism? Kids picking on each other will always exist, we have anti-bullying campaigns, you don't want to stop them from putting themselves out all over the internet, so the only solution is to get them to deal with it in better way and using examples of people in the same situation who overcame it is not the worst thing. We use inspirational human stories all the time of people overcoming obstacles but it is taboo to do so with bullying?
I don't think this is just an issue of simple bullying or basic insults, a lot of it is more sinister than that in relation to continual harrasment and actual threats and harm. I can accept insults but insults become harrasment when someone creates hundreds of accounts and sends hundreds of disturbing messages every week threatening harm and fantasising about torture, death or rape, or they threaten other members of your family. This is when a line is crossed and when the authorities need to become involved, indeed if someone needs mental health they should get it, whether it is the perpertrator or victim, but to turn a blind eye to the more extreme behaviour os some trolls/stalkers is just not acceptable. No one should be living in fear because of these people who hide behind the anonymity of the internet.
I don't think this is just an issue of simple bullying or basic insults, a lot of it is more sinister than that in relation to continual harrasment and actual threats and harm. I can accept insults but insults become harrasment when someone creates hundreds of accounts and sends hundreds of disturbing messages every week threatening harm and fantasising about torture, death or rape, or they threaten other members of your family. This is when a line is crossed and when the authorities need to become involved, indeed if someone needs mental health they should get it, whether it is the perpertrator or victim, but to turn a blind eye to the more extreme behaviour os some trolls/stalkers is just not acceptable. No one should be living in fear because of these people who hide behind the anonymity of the internet.
Of course, these threats of bodily harm are illegal and need to be dealt with harshly. Comments about being fat, ugly or sl*tty do not rise to that level yet are considered dangerous bullying and cause kids to kill themselves. THAT is not normal and never has been.
thats fine, they can st up where ever they choose, except the US, our first amendment protects us here, for now.
Yes, for now. But for our own safety, we better prosecute anyone who disagrees with climate change. Then the gates will open and that will be the end of the what amendment.
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