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Old 08-16-2016, 05:22 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Where has freedom gone? We will all have to act like cloned robots with no freedom of speech.
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Old 08-16-2016, 06:56 PM
 
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"...using [a] public electronic communications network in order to cause annoyance, inconvenience or needless anxiety,"


Where are you finding libel or threats in here?
Where are you finding London and not NYC?
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Old 08-16-2016, 07:14 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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You know, I just emailed a friend of mine in Great Britain. It's still there.
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Old 08-17-2016, 02:33 AM
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Location: Great Britain
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You know, I just emailed a friend of mine in Great Britain. It's still there.
LOL

The main purpose of this is to stop people speading hatred across the web whether it is Islamic Muslim Groups or Ultra Right Wing groups.

In other news Anjem Choudary has finally been imprisoned

How Anjem Choudary's mouth was finally shut - BBC News

Anjem Choudary UK's 'most hated man' convicted of ISIS support - CNN.com

As for the internet it is not beyond the law and data protection laws, defamation, common laws and even Human Rights Laws (Article 8 ECHR) apply to it, and that includes the US.

Human Rights are a balancing act, for instace you have to weigh one persons right to expression against another persons right to privacy or in relation to confidentiality and the same applies to hate crime.

As for Scotland Yard,the National Crime Agency and GCHQ they already scan the internet for crimes from the sales if weapons and drugs, through to paedophilia and child pornography through to terrorist related activity. As do their American equivalents.

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Old 08-17-2016, 04:51 AM
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In terms of the Trolls, it's distressing Trolling and Stalking that the unit will identify and stop. Trolling sometimes goes too far especially in the case of families who have lost loved ones and are greiving. Whilst Cyber Bullying has even led to suicides. The Police Unit will no doubt be aimed at extreme trolling that causes extreme pain and anguish.

Internet 'trolling': Investigation into distress of grieving families caused by 'trolls' | Daily Mail Online

The Anti-Social Network (BBC3)

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Old 08-17-2016, 06:41 AM
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Location: Great Britain
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The least they can do is lose the "Great" part of Great Britain. They are prosecuting Internet trolls for "hate speech." London's Muslim mayor has gotten funds for a hate crime hub just for this purpose.

"The law criminalises “using [a] public electronic communications network in order to cause annoyance, inconvenience or needless anxiety,” and can result in a six-month prison term or fine of up to £5,000.

London Mayor To Set Up Police

That's right. If you go on a forum and you annoy someone or make them nervous they can turn you in to the police and you can be prosecuted and put in prison for 6 months. The police are telling everyone to report it and guess who is going to help them do it, in addition to the safe space babies: Facebook, Twitter, YouTube and Microsoft.

Some Irish pastor made "grossly offensive" remarks about Islam in an online sermon so the police spent a year and a half of taxpayer money investigating it, then they prosecuted him and thank God, he was found not guilty.

A Scottish football fan got 8 months in prison for insulting Celtic fans, Catholics and the pope online.

And the London police are FINE with it. They are welcoming the extra workload.
In terms of Scotland and Northern Ireland they have specific problems related to sectarian violence, and have different laws in place to England and Wales.

Football religious hatred law takes effect in Scotland - BBC News

The European Convention on Human Rights (ECHR) has competing rights including the right to free expression however these rights have to be balanced against other rights such as the right to privacy and family life. Article 10 has to be adhered to by the UK and it should be noted the ECHR is a seperate organisation to the EU and one in which the UK remains a signatory, with the ECHR applying to UK Laws and an breach by the UK could be taken to the European Court of Human Rights.

The European Court of Human Rights is a supra-national or international court established by the European Convention on Human Rights. It hears applications alleging that a contracting state has breached one or more of the human rights provisions concerning civil and political rights set out in the Convention and its protocols. An application can be lodged by an individual, a group of individuals or one or more of the other contracting states, and, besides judgments, the Court can also issue advisory opinions. The Convention was adopted within the context of the Council of Europe, and all of its 47 member states are contracting parties to the Convention. The Court is based in Strasbourg, France.

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Article 10 – Freedom of expression

1. Everyone has the right to freedom of expression. This right shall include freedom to hold opinions and to receive and impart information and ideas without interference by public authority and regardless of frontiers. This article shall not prevent States from requiring the licensing of broadcasting, television or cinema enterprises.

2. The exercise of these freedoms, since it carries with it duties and responsibilities, may be subject to such formalities, conditions, restrictions or penalties as are prescribed by law and are necessary in a democratic society, in the interests of national security, territorial integrity or public safety, for the prevention of disorder or crime, for the protection of health or morals, for the protection of the reputation or rights of others, for preventing the disclosure of information received in confidence, or for maintaining the authority and impartiality of the judiciary.

Article 10 Freedom of Expression - Liberty

Article 10 | Right to freedom of expression - UK Human Rights Blog

Free Speech Isn't Free - The Atlantic

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Old 08-17-2016, 07:01 AM
 
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They can do whatever they want in their country. If it doesn't work out then they'll change it. Not sure why as Americans we should be concerned.
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Old 08-17-2016, 07:05 AM
 
Location: Kentucky Bluegrass
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Originally Posted by LauraC View Post
The least they can do is lose the "Great" part of Great Britain. They are prosecuting Internet trolls for "hate speech." London's Muslim mayor has gotten funds for a hate crime hub just for this purpose.

"The law criminalises “using [a] public electronic communications network in order to cause annoyance, inconvenience or needless anxiety,” and can result in a six-month prison term or fine of up to £5,000.

London Mayor To Set Up Police

That's right. If you go on a forum and you annoy someone or make them nervous they can turn you in to the police and you can be prosecuted and put in prison for 6 months. The police are telling everyone to report it and guess who is going to help them do it, in addition to the safe space babies: Facebook, Twitter, YouTube and Microsoft.

Some Irish pastor made "grossly offensive" remarks about Islam in an online sermon so the police spent a year and a half of taxpayer money investigating it, then they prosecuted him and thank God, he was found not guilty.

A Scottish football fan got 8 months in prison for insulting Celtic fans, Catholics and the pope online.

And the London police are FINE with it. They are welcoming the extra workload.
yes, I read about this yesterday, and now it starts...and yet there are so so many people out there who still refuse to believe...it's so sad...so sad...
I'm so sorry LaruaC....

it is starting here already to...they are using our laws to push their cause....they're buying our real estate, getting into politics....allowing all the refugees in, it has begun.

This plan has been put into place for many years....and it is coming to fruition...
I read Sharia law over and over again...do you know, they can lie for their cause, meaning, they are told from the time they are born, breed strictly for the cause...act like us, dress like us, get jobs, go to college, and infiltrate the country politics...
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Old 08-17-2016, 07:09 AM
 
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yes, I read about this yesterday, and now it starts...and yet there are so so many people out there who still refuse to believe...it's so sad...so sad...
I'm so sorry LaruaC....

it is starting here already to...they are using our laws to push their cause....
why are you sorry for LauraC, it's pretty obvious she has no clue about Great Britain

and what 'cause' is this that they are pushing?
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Old 08-17-2016, 07:10 AM
 
Location: Kentucky Bluegrass
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LOL

The main purpose of this is to stop people speading hatred across the web whether it is Islamic Muslim Groups or Ultra Right Wing groups.

In other news Anjem Choudary has finally been imprisoned

How Anjem Choudary's mouth was finally shut - BBC News

Anjem Choudary UK's 'most hated man' convicted of ISIS support - CNN.com

As for the internet it is not beyond the law and data protection laws, defamation, common laws and even Human Rights Laws (Article 8 ECHR) apply to it, and that includes the US.

Human Rights are a balancing act, for instace you have to weigh one persons right to expression against another persons right to privacy or in relation to confidentiality and the same applies to hate crime.

As for Scotland Yard,the National Crime Agency and GCHQ they already scan the internet for crimes from the sales if weapons and drugs, through to paedophilia and child pornography through to terrorist related activity. As do their American equivalents.
stop hatred...you will never stop hatred, no matter what you do, the more you surpress, and try to control the more hatred you birth....

I swear you people are so stubborn to not see what is going on....

We have the right to feel as we wish, we have the right to express it...
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