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Old 08-21-2016, 03:44 PM
 
Location: Secure Bunker
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female steve job: oprah
female shakespeare: may angelou
Did you just compare Maya Angelou to ... Shakespeare?

LOL! That's hilarious! She was a second rate writer at best.
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Old 08-21-2016, 03:52 PM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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and oprah is the female Steve Job? lol Don't think so.
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Old 08-21-2016, 04:12 PM
 
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Did you just compare Maya Angelou to ... Shakespeare?

LOL! That's hilarious! She was a second rate writer at best.
Shakespeare is, without a doubt, the greatest English writer of his time and perhaps any other. But, what's also true without a doubt is that women were systematically excluded from participating in anything other than marriage or if they didn't marry the nunnery or perhaps caring for the household of a male relative. No education past learning to take care of a household. No opportunity to pursue anything other than what her father permitted which was marriage.

If Shakespeare had been female, he would never have been allowed to achieve what he did. That takes nothing away from his vast achievements, to say an Elizabethan woman would not have been permitted to do the same even if she had the same talents as he did. How many things could women have achieved that never came to pass due to the constraints of the societies they lived in? We'll never know, but I'm sure they were considerable.
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Old 08-21-2016, 04:33 PM
 
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Where are the female Steve Jobs, Shakespeares, etc. ?
We women do the hard stuff. Like refuse to give up our seat on the bus.
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Old 08-21-2016, 04:36 PM
 
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Where are the female Einsteins and Beetovens?

Yesterday, when I decided to roast some beets in my oven, it never occurred to me that my oven might have a gender.
This has been a true revelation!

Who knew?
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Old 08-21-2016, 04:38 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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This is a controversial subject. It seems like, when you look at the top achievers in society, men dominate. It pains me to say it, but I can't find any example of truly innovative females. Where are the female Steve Jobs, Shakespeares, etc. ?
Maybe they're busy working as doctors, lawyers, business executives, department heads, administrators, etc. You conveniently left out these positions for top achievers...

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Old 08-21-2016, 04:45 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Where are the female Einsteins and Beetovens?

Yesterday, when I decided to roast some beets in my oven, it never occurred to me that my oven might have a gender.
This has been a true revelation!

Who knew?
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Not you if you're just some dumb broad.

Lol.

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Old 08-21-2016, 07:36 PM
 
Location: Japan
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Maybe they're busy working as doctors, lawyers, business executives, department heads, administrators, etc. You conveniently left out these positions for top achievers...

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The top achievers in medicine, law and business also are men. Is there any field where this is not so?
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Old 08-21-2016, 08:25 PM
 
Location: Houston
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The top achievers in medicine, law and business also are men. Is there any field where this is not so?
Porn industry stars are mostly women.
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Old 08-21-2016, 08:35 PM
 
Location: SC
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Here we go, back to that pesky White +| Male privilege thing. I know most of you think it does not exist, but I think it does.

Many of those great men in history - were women. Meaning that the woman did the work, the man got the credit. Similar to the way in which Edison patented all those things - yet invented only a few.

6 Women Scientists Who Were Snubbed Due to Sexism

10 Groundbreaking Women Scientists Written Off By History - Listverse

Ladies Last: 8 Inventions by Women That Dudes Got Credit For | Mother Jones

https://www.one.org/us/2015/02/24/7-...-need-to-know/

http://www.cnn.com/2013/11/11/world/...-codebreakers/

http://www.boredpanda.com/women-who-changed-history/
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