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Old 08-20-2016, 09:46 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Straight from the horses mouth.

"These ni**erss, they're getting pretty uppity these days and that's a problem for us since they've got something now they never had before, the political pull to back up their uppityness. Now we've got to do something about this, we've got to give them a little something, just enough to quiet them down, not enough to make a difference... I'll have them ni**ers voting Democratic for the next two hundred years". - Lyndon B. Johnson,


How is is working out for ya?
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Old 08-20-2016, 10:01 AM
 
Location: Keller, TX
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The Democratic Party's Two-Facedness of Race Relations
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Old 08-20-2016, 10:30 AM
 
Location: In a chartreuse microbus
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Surprised at the source for the link! But yes, true; every word of it.
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Old 08-20-2016, 10:43 AM
 
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LBJ wanted to be remembered for some of his programs like Medicare and the Civil Rights Act but is known most for escalating a futile and unpopular war.
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Old 08-20-2016, 11:36 AM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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That was over 50 years ago, and Johnson was both a man of his time and a Texan.

The N word was commonly used back then by whites all over the nation, a nd very commonly in the south, but it did not automatically imply hostility to the race. If Johnson had wanted to be derogatory, he had a wealth of more then-offensive names he could have used.

"Negro" was the more polite term back then, and is very seldom used today. Johnson used that word in formal speech, but when he was off the record, he lapsed back to the slang he had heard and used all his life.

Other southerners didn't bother with such formalities, and used the N word freely in their speech, both in public and in private, along with using the word in writing.

A very good example of a politician who deliberately used the word derogatorily was George Wallace, who used it often in his campaign speeches when he was running for President. He also used it freely as Governor in public.
Wallace himself held no ill will toward people of color, and before he died in the 90's he made many apologies to black folks for his politically motivated offensive speech.

Those times are gone. The nation now isn't as white, Christian, or conservative as it once was, and like everything else, what may be acceptable to one generation is not to a later generation.

What words do you use in regards to race, Bent? In my case, I do not permit the word to be said in my presence, whether in my home or in public, and say so whenever I hear it.

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Old 08-20-2016, 11:43 AM
 
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That was over 50 years ago, and Johnson was both a man of his time and a Texan.

The N word was commonly used back then by whites all over the nation, a nd very commonly in the south, but it did not automatically imply hostility to the race. If Johnson had wanted to be derogatory, he had a wealth of more then-offensive names he could have used.

"Negro" was the more polite term back then, and is very seldom used today. Johnson used that word in formal speech, but when he was off the record, he lapsed back to the slang he had heard and used all his life.

Other southerners didn't bother with such formalities, and used the N word freely in their speech, both in public and in private, along with using the word in writing.
The use of the N word wasn't the issue. The Great Society programs was.
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Old 08-20-2016, 11:46 AM
 
Location: Texas
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LBJ wanted to be remembered for some of his programs like Medicare and the Civil Rights Act but is known most for escalating a futile and unpopular war.
Yup, and there was no shortage of advisors eventually telling him the truth, but unfortunately, he only listened to those that were telling him what he wanted to hear. When he finally threw in the towel and decided not to run for re-election, it apparently took many people by surprise. From what I'd always heard, many of his advisors didn't know it until they heard him say it at the close of that address to the nation from the Oval Office.
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Old 08-20-2016, 11:57 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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That was over 50 years ago, and Johnson was both a man of his time and a Texan.

The N word was commonly used back then by whites all over the nation, a nd very commonly in the south, but it did not automatically imply hostility to the race. If Johnson had wanted to be derogatory, he had a wealth of more then-offensive names he could have used.

"Negro" was the more polite term back then, and is very seldom used today. Johnson used that word in formal speech, but when he was off the record, he lapsed back to the slang he had heard and used all his life.

Other southerners didn't bother with such formalities, and used the N word freely in their speech, both in public and in private, along with using the word in writing.

A very good example of a politician who deliberately used the word derogatorily was George Wallace, who used it often in his campaign speeches when he was running for President. He also used it freely as Governor in public.
Wallace himself held no ill will toward people of color, and before he died in the 90's he made many apologies to black folks for his politically motivated offensive speech.

Those times are gone. The nation now isn't as white, Christian, or conservative as it once was, and like everything else, what may be acceptable to one generation is not to a later generation.

What words do you use in regards to race, Bent? In my case, I do not permit the word to be said in my presence, whether in my home or in public, and say so whenever I hear it.

Too funny... All you heard was the "N" word!! Your blinders are duly noted!

Nothing for this... ""they're getting pretty uppity these days and that's a problem for us since they've got something now they never had before, the political pull to back up their uppityness. Now we've got to do something about this, we've got to give them a little something, just enough to quiet them down, not enough to make a difference...""
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Old 08-20-2016, 01:22 PM
 
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That was over 50 years ago, and Johnson was both a man of his time and a Texan.

The N word was commonly used back then by whites all over the nation, a nd very commonly in the south, but it did not automatically imply hostility to the race. If Johnson had wanted to be derogatory, he had a wealth of more then-offensive names he could have used.

"Negro" was the more polite term back then, and is very seldom used today. Johnson used that word in formal speech, but when he was off the record, he lapsed back to the slang he had heard and used all his life.
Johnson always used the word Nigrews (Nig Ruse) in his television talk.

He never gave up much of anything, did he?

Johnson was always a very disgusting man.

Nearly impossible to get the south mouth out of the south.
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Old 08-20-2016, 01:36 PM
 
Location: the Sticks
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LBJ wanted to be remembered for some of his programs like Medicare and the Civil Rights Act but is known most for escalating a futile and unpopular war.
And his complete mismanagement of the effort.
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