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Old 08-21-2016, 11:39 AM
 
Location: USA
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Look at todays gangsta videos...Black men with great wealth and tons of bling bling...beautiful woman...but with no explanation on where the wealth came from other than the obvious....crime.
Did you know that people make millions of dollars just from being musicians?
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Old 08-21-2016, 11:51 AM
 
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Did you know that people make millions of dollars just from being musicians?

The median income of musicians is probably fairly low.
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Old 08-21-2016, 12:31 PM
 
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Does anyone know how it becomes known that banks are redlining a particular community?
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Old 08-21-2016, 01:18 PM
 
Location: Hyde Park, Los Angeles
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Everyone who wants to sell something targets everyone who has money to spend. That's how the economy works. It's up to the buyer to decide if he or she is better off spending or saving. Black people, more than others, tend toward spending. This probably has to do with lower average IQs, less impulse control and lack of future orientation, most of which is likely related to genetic tendencies, so it's almost as pointless to blame blacks for this situation as to blame whites or capitalists. It is what it is.
You failed to mention whitewashing. You always throw in low IQ when it comes to Black people. That's a tired excuse if I've ever heard one.

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Putting "has" in all caps doesn't make this dubious claim any more convincing.
It isn't a "dubious" claim. Perhaps you say this because the discrimination is more subtle than blatant, but I bet you turn a blind eye every time.

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Think of the original white producers of rap and hip hop who financed the scam that black youth now think is music...Blacks got robbed of a thing called melody...of beautiful music. Remember the great soul soothing R&B- the fine honesty and dignity of the blues?

Black America was robbed by white media when they started to dupe the average black with TV shows that showed that blacks lived wealthy upper middle class lives...which was soothing I am sure but it was a lie.

Look at todays gangsta videos...Black men with great wealth and tons of bling bling...beautiful woman...but with no explanation on where the wealth came from other than the obvious....crime.

White America was dishonest....they pacified and placated black America with an illusion...that everything was fine and hopeful...when it was not....Yes black America got robbed...they were duped into hope and opportunity when there was none..

Not saying that success and the American dream can not be fulfilled by the black populace - but it is rare....Most blacks are isolated...in poverty...and millions in jail supporting a privatized penal system.
I agree with most of this, except the "crime" in rap music. Artists such as BDP, X-Clan, Public Enemy, etc. were for the uplifting of Black people, until Corporate (white) America stuck their hands in the cookie jar of the music industry and threw in these Stepin Fetchit caricatures of rappers talking about pushing kilos, money, cars, jewels, and all this bogus crap.

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How about the 1921 Tulsa Race Riot, where white people went in and literally robbed & pillaged a black community?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulsa_race_riot
Educated, successful Black people who are proud of their Blackness are a threat to racist whites. Even Rosewood, FL suffered the same fate. They are enraged if Black people build up their communities.
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Old 08-21-2016, 02:04 PM
 
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According to city data its the past and everyone has a opportunity to excel. The past has never effected to the future. The jews overcame it so blacks and Latinos should be able too..
The Western Jews were largely Reformed Jews (the Jewish Reformation occurred in Germany too, and unlike the Christian Reformation it was liberal reformation) and they already had lots of money and education from their time in countries like Germany. Part of that Reformation was to make Judaism and Jews more science and rational leaning like Protestant and Catholic Christians.

Western Jews came to the US with money. In general. And in general moved right away into the Middle-Class. Similar to East Indians that move to the USA, they generally come from India's middle and upper classes.

The Western Jews despised the Eastern Jews who arrived in the US poor and became the boxers, gangsters, and bootleggers. The Eastern Jews were mainly Orthodox and not into science and rational thought like the Christians and Reformed Jews. So, that irked the Western Jews too.

Eventually even Eastern Jews gain wealth in the USA. This is true.

Jim Crow era alone is enough to argue Black-Americans were institutionally discriminated against. One not need bring up slavery.

Whites received government sponsored deals on real estate, in the form of land though, going back to the early days of the United States when the government offered rock bottom price deals on Amerindian lands to be taken and held to any whites from Europe or on the East Coast willing to go out a Westward and with rifles, shovels, and hoes in hands stake out territory from Amerindians.

The US Government also invested in a national highway system, hospital systems, after seeing how far ahead the Germans were of America infrastructurally when US troops went into Germany during WWII. So, it is not true the US Government never until recently used tax dollars for the public.

It is amazing how much wealth can be passed down by whites to their children.
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Old 08-21-2016, 03:15 PM
 
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That's funny because for the longest time white America thoroughly detested and hated Asians. White America is the one that enacted the Chinese exclusion act, barred Asians from owning and maintaining businesses besides basically laundry and restaurants, and white America is the one that banned Asians from even immigrating LEGALLY to the US allllll the way until the 1965.

Now that Asians are successful, white people love to try to use them as political pawns in order to pit minorities against each other by playing up the 'model minority' crap. Please. How many Asians do you see in the movies, on TV, or in charge of fortune 500 companies, in Congress or the Presidency? We get it, they just want Asians to do what they've always been doing--go to school, get good grades, get good jobs and just shut up. That's not obtaining real power, however. Anyone with an ounce of intelligence can see through the thinly veiled arguments of 'well Asians can do it!'. That does not wash away America's atrocious history of its treatment of African Americans, a legacy that is huge part of all of the problems that AA face today.
You are absolutely correct. When Asians begin to gain power watch how this all changes.
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Old 08-21-2016, 03:24 PM
 
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"The jews overcame it so blacks and Latinos should be able too.

"Q:Who are African American millionaires?



"The net worth of Robert Johnson, founder of Black Entertainment Television, rivals that of Michael Jordan. Real estate tycoons Don Peebles and Quintin Primo III operate successful real estate companies; Peebles' firm acquires properties in the United States, while the firm Capri Capital, established by Primo III, purchases, sells and constructs properties and infrastructure in the United States and abroad. Athletes, franchise owners, investors and accountants also make the list of African Americans with incomes in the millions."

https://www.reference.com/geography/...f38000dc911da1
You don't think I know there are successful blacks in this country. We have always had success even despite many white that were terrorizing those communities. That still does not mean there aren't any systematic issue that may affect poor and middle class blacks trying to find a way out.
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Old 08-21-2016, 03:30 PM
 
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How about the 1921 Tulsa Race Riot, where white people went in and literally robbed & pillaged a black community?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulsa_race_riot

That wasn't the only community like that in the states. A lot of them were raided and bombed etc. many of those communities had to rebuild. While white wealth and power continued to grow..
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Old 08-21-2016, 03:35 PM
 
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The Western Jews were largely Reformed Jews (the Jewish Reformation occurred in Germany too, and unlike the Christian Reformation it was liberal reformation) and they already had lots of money and education from their time in countries like Germany. Part of that Reformation was to make Judaism and Jews more science and rational leaning like Protestant and Catholic Christians.

Western Jews came to the US with money. In general. And in general moved right away into the Middle-Class. Similar to East Indians that move to the USA, they generally come from India's middle and upper classes.

The Western Jews despised the Eastern Jews who arrived in the US poor and became the boxers, gangsters, and bootleggers. The Eastern Jews were mainly Orthodox and not into science and rational thought like the Christians and Reformed Jews. So, that irked the Western Jews too.

Eventually even Eastern Jews gain wealth in the USA. This is true.

Jim Crow era alone is enough to argue Black-Americans were institutionally discriminated against. One not need bring up slavery.

Whites received government sponsored deals on real estate, in the form of land though, going back to the early days of the United States when the government offered rock bottom price deals on Amerindian lands to be taken and held to any whites from Europe or on the East Coast willing to go out a Westward and with rifles, shovels, and hoes in hands stake out territory from Amerindians.

The US Government also invested in a national highway system, hospital systems, after seeing how far ahead the Germans were of America infrastructurally when US troops went into Germany during WWII. So, it is not true the US Government never until recently used tax dollars for the public.

It is amazing how much wealth can be passed down by whites to their children.

This was on point.. Also some of these big corporations

15 Major Corporations You Never Knew Profited from Slavery - Atlanta Black Star
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Old 08-21-2016, 04:04 PM
 
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Yet more excuses, not buyin it.
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