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Old 08-25-2016, 07:30 AM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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Love is something I am morally opposed to (in the "love and sex" kind of way) and hate the very idea of being a part of a "couple."


Ah, what "scene"? Do you mean performers? Well guess what: that is what animated porn is for (which is generally the kind I prefer anyway)


I agree. And this is not about Child porn which is of course horrible. It is about the plain-old-porn and the gay porn that feminists seem to think does not exist.





OK do as you want! you have the freedom- as I and others have the freedom to say NO don't like it- what is it to you?
I can have 10 million people say they don't like chocolate-- I don't care- I will eat my chocolate- go and have fun in peace-- we live in the US-- you free to do so
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Old 08-25-2016, 08:15 AM
 
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Okay, that argument just destroyed itself. This thread is clearly about the feminists reaction to her story, hence I quoted the feminists and not her. Just as someone mentioning they heard Charles Manson singing a Beatles song under his breath and people attacked the Beatles as a result isn't attacking the victim but rather attacking those who think the Beatles were responsible and should be banned, attacking the feminists for jumping on this story is not attacking Elizabeth Smart.

And for the record I was horribly abused by my drug-addicted mother...the feminists response is that I deserved it because I am a male and my mother should not have been punished.

Spare me your objections: that is real feminism. Just like Gas Chambers are indeed real Nazism and Gulag camps are real communism and lynch mobs are the real KKK, hating all males is the real history of feminism.
No this thread is clearly about your issues with your mother and feminism.

Again, if you are upset about feminists and their take on pornography, you should post links from a feminist who is critical/against pornography and not post an article about Elizabeth Smart.

Your article mentioned NOTHING of feminism in the OP...
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Old 08-25-2016, 09:27 AM
 
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Professionals indicate otherwise, there is a connection to a certain segment and pornography and many are addicted. There was a time when porn was just a magazine under the mattress, now adults and children have it readily ingrained into their lives 24/7 with social media. Look at the problems they have in high schools with children sending around pictures of themselves, learned behavior.


There is nothing wrong with an adult in a relationship accessing porn, but many times that is not the case and they use it as a substitute.

That's nice. The scope of the subject was porn's relationship to violent crimes and abductions, not the sex climate in high school. And what you are talking about isn't even porn. Its of themselves.
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Old 08-25-2016, 09:40 AM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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I doubt it. More like another downside of the American penchant for marrying unwisely. Anything from marrying too early, or too late; having children too early, or too late; marrying across socio-economic divides; across political or ideological divides; across differing sexual identity and behavioral divides, etc.
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Old 08-25-2016, 10:41 AM
 
Location: NW Nevada
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Love is something I am morally opposed to (in the "love and sex" kind of way) and hate the very idea of being a part of a "couple."




Ah, what "scene"? Do you mean performers? Well guess what: that is what animated porn is for (which is generally the kind I prefer anyway)



I agree. And this is not about Child porn which is of course horrible. It is about the plain-old-porn and the gay porn that feminists seem to think does not exist.

Ahhh. I see now. This is tied in with that MGTOW "philosophy". "Morally opposed to love and disgusted at the very idea of being part of a couple". I had forgotten you were an advocate of that. That puts a different twist on how I interpret your core subject. This isn't about the moral implication of pornagraphy, so much as what specific women and women's advocacy groups think about it. That, being part of the plot to feminize men, and bend us to their will. Which, I don't entirely disagree with, in certain cases, but taken as a whole, is not an "enemy" I spend much strategic and tactical resources on.

Because I love women. I love my lady. Because she's a woman. Women are NOT the enemy, man. Really, I wouldn't BS ya. Radical feminists don't represent that many women. They're just loud, so they get attention. Classification of all men under one roof is their style, but doing the same to all women, because of them, is a serious strategic blunder. That will get a guy creamed on the field of life. Its no wonder you're so ...repulsed...by the mere thought of a relationship with a woman.

That's something I just can't fathom.
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Old 08-25-2016, 03:06 PM
 
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No this thread is clearly about your issues with your mother and feminism.

Again, if you are upset about feminists and their take on pornography, you should post links from a feminist who is critical/against pornography and not post an article about Elizabeth Smart.

Your article mentioned NOTHING of feminism in the OP...

Yes, I apologize for not taking into consideration the reading comprehension problem so many of you people have. Here is ANOTHER article for you to ignore and continue insisting that "feminism is not anti-porn"

The world according to porn
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Old 08-25-2016, 03:07 PM
 
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3rd wave feminists are today's religious fundamentalists.

Exactly.


Same poison, just with a different flavor
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Old 08-25-2016, 03:19 PM
 
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"Elizabeth Smart, feminism, and gay porn "

I don't think feminism has anything to do with it, who cares what they say. I will say this, long story, but I was once a witness during a child molestation case. It turns out that the guy had all kinds of porn magazines, I'm talking tons of them. Those and teddy bears, super creepy. It was an eye opener for me, that's for sure. So, I don't doubt that her kidnapper's porn fueled the fire.
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Old 08-25-2016, 03:45 PM
 
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Yeah again there is a selection bias problem that couples who start watching porn together are probably already trying something new due to some already existing void they are trying to fill.

Though on principle , porn breaks the sexual monopoly, just like romance novels break the man's monopolistic source for romance. So while its not double the real rate, a link is not out of the question.


After all female porn has the same issue.

https://marriagegems.com/2011/07/01/...-real-romance/

Mills & Boon books could ruin your chance of REAL romance | Daily Mail Online


I am not holding my breath you will have the same enthusiasm in stopping women from movie porn like Twilight or Under a Tuscan Sun anytime soon.


I am also not holding my breath that you will look at the result of female's breaking the bread winning monopoly on their men. Just like men are less dependent on women for sex, women are less dependent on men for money and hence divorce much more freely.

Forbes Welcome


I also find what's going on in modern churches amusing. Sins of male lust make the rounds frequently. Meanwhile the mortal sin of gluttony, with pastries in the basement, is completely ignored with unfortunate results on female pulchritude.

So be sure you quite your job, toss out those romance novels, stop watching chick flicks, and lay off the donuts to keep that relationship in top condition.

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Old 08-25-2016, 09:50 PM
 
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For the record: This tone is humorous but I assure you I am not trolling. Just making jokes while making a point that is NEVER really considered when this sort of things is brought up, for the record.

Okay, I go online and facebook, twitter and the rest are all blowing up because Elizabeth Smart says her kidnapper's porn use caused him to rape her more and more....




Kidnapping, rape survivor Elizabeth Smart says ‘pornography made my living hell worse’ | New York's PIX11 / WPIX-TV

AND DON'T GET ME WRONG! I AM NOT MAD AT HER IN ANYWAY FOR HER OPINION! It is the other people on the internet who are using this to further their own agenda I am irked by, so spare me any of the "but she was abused!" line because I am not directing this at her.


So now, the feminists and fundamentalists are back in their usual "yeah, Blame the porn" kick. This reminds me of how after the Columbine shooting they blamed Marilyn Manson, video games, and everything BUT the two pieces of slime who committed the murders.

Or how they use to blame the fantasy game Dungeons and Dragons on suicide (it turns out kids who play RPGs are actually LESS likely to commit suicide, probably because it means they at least have some friends)

Anyway, the porn is just one detail blown out of proportion (no pun intended) and now every crazy feminists and insane fundamentalist is saying "see! I told you!" I guess if he ate McDonald's before raping her Big Macs would be to blame too. But more so the feminist are the ones getting traction because the fundamentalists are too busy making themselves look silly by blaming "porn demons."

And the feminists say over and over "pornography is ownership of womyn by EVIL MEN!" and "PORN DESTROYS WOMEN!" and "women this"! and "girl power against evil patriarchy that!" And I read this all after last night when I, as a straight (I think?) guy watched the most AMAZING thing....a gay porn.

I mean...I am straight...I am pretty sure but....but...

(wipes sweat from brow) Man that was HOT. Maybe it was just because these guys were NOT typical looking at all but...okay, maybe I am a little bisexual.

So I woke up this morning to a bunch of social media crap telling me "porn destroys women! we have da proofs!" meanwhile I just watched a porn that has, by its nature, NOTHING to do with destroying women but had more to do with men being manly without a female in sight.


Honestly, if porn harms women, how oh how does gay porn harm women? And spare me, SPARE ME the old, tired "but that's not mainstream porn" argument. THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS "MAINSTREAM" PORN. I have been on countless porn sites and went to porn shops back in the day, and I have yet to see "mainstream" as a genre (little people, mature, fat, and aliens yes, but mainstream? No) and the fact is gay porn is sold and distributed right in the same place straight porn is.

No self-respecting porn site would be complete without a gay porn category, and before the rise of the internet there was not a porn shop on America that didn't have gay porn available. If there is such a thing as "mainstream porn," than GAY PORN IS MAINSTREAM PORN.

So, without any other arguments the anti-porn side (and there are a lot of other valid ones, I know), doesn't the fact that a huge chunk of the market has NOTHING to do with women kind of destroy the feminist "argument" that porn is anti-woman by nature?


Sorry, but something tells me that my enjoying "Stand at Attention" will not lead me to kidnap and rape a young girl anytime soon...but I will have trouble from this moment on hearing "we're looking for a few good men" without laughing out loud.


EDIT: Okay, FOR THE RECORD, I am not mad at Elizabeth Smart, who has obviously been through hell, but rather at the feminists using her story to further their illogical ends. I can obviously forgive Smart for saying that, but I can't let the obvious hypocrisy of the feminists jumping on this story off the hook.
If you already are a sexual predator porn might be a trigger?
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