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I miss the internet as it existed between 2000 and 2002. I was a blogger and spent a good bit of my day reading and writing. This was before Facebook, Snapchat, and Twitter. It was before Call of Duty. It was before smartphones.
THIS......I was 16-18, and boy did I love bein able to talk to other people all ove rthe world via ICQ lol....Yahoo Chat was fun until the Bots took over......
Troll - that is apparently anybody with an opinion different from the person making the accusation.
A troll is somebody who has a different opinion of yours and just cannot let go, like a dog with his bone, and constantly rubbing it in. That's a troll.
THIS......I was 16-18, and boy did I love bein able to talk to other people all ove rthe world via ICQ lol....Yahoo Chat was fun until the Bots took over......
Tell me about Yahoo Chat and it's nasty porn bots. Does anybody remember MSN Chat? It was big about 2000
I've been there a few times, to see what it's about. I do frequent Reddit, but mostly Vive, Futurology, Biology, AWLIAS, and stuff like that. I think it's important to know what's out there at the fringe though. I maintain City Data is tame by comparison.
As much as Time magazine hates how the internet is being ruined by free lancers (aka trolls), what about our frustration with the continued lower quality of articles the print ( what's left) and newspapers are publishing online? Some newspapers are only linking videos to report the news. How lazy is that?
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I don't think a freelancer is the same thing as a troll. A freelancer on the Internet is an independent, a person with a skill for hire - in this case, presumably researching, writing & putting articles up on the Internet. A troll is simply there to cause problems - conflict, arguments, however you want to phrase it. The troll may be paid or not.
Yah, the death - or @ least the grave illness of the old MSM models - one centralized source to many recipients - is being beat to death by networks formed of nodes, capable of communication of many to many (whether that actually happens or not - but @ least it's possible, something that the old model didn't recognize as a possibility, & certainly not as a desirable outcome).
Like most information systems in the US, we now have the problems of information overload, & also of the reliability of sources. If the NY Times printed something, it was easy enough to check. As Internet sources can change articles on the fly - possibly with no indication that they're been changed @ all - it becomes difficult to know which sources are reliable.
These are issues we'll get through, I'm sure. Unreliable sources simply won't get the traffic, & like unused CNS pathways, they'll simply atrophy & drop off the 'Net - eventually.
Yep, the unanswered question in the OP above - Once the print media goes under, finally - as it seems to have been doing ever since the 'Net started becoming competitive back when - Who's going to take the place of the reliable print outlets, in gathering & vetting stories, & putting them into sequences that make them easy to access?
Agreed. In a way: IMHO between 1995 and 2002 was the "golden age"; even with 56K dialup modems, Pentium 100, Windows 95/98 and so on. Back then surfing the web was fun even if it took a "1,000 years" to down load a big jpeg pic.
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1994... My first dial up connection. Those were the days, of click and wait..
IRC and the "newsgroups"
Yep. I had a 33.6 connection called a "Jove account" through my college. It would kick you off every 120 minutes and then it was 10 or 20 minutes of dialing before you could get back in. Sent my first email in 1993, discovered Usenet in 94 along with Lynx (text-based Web browser). 2000 was when I got my DSL. 80 KBs / second was unbelievable. Unreal Tournament, where trolls were few and far between. Blogs where people wrote actual essays and novellas. Google was actually useful.
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THIS......I was 16-18, and boy did I love bein able to talk to other people all over the world via ICQ lol....Yahoo Chat was fun until the Bots took over......
Oh man, ICQ! It bothers me that we had a fine chat client way back in 2000! We use "Skype for Business" at my company and it's inferior in every way to ICQ from 16 years ago. Progress...
Doxing is illegal under Data Protection Laws in most countries, and swatting would be illegal under a host of laws including wasting police time. Both of which are crimes in their own rights rather than trolling specific issues.
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The UK is already heading this direction. Enough metered out pieces like this one here from Time, and liberals will begin a stronger legislative push for regulations here in the States to protect people from hurtful words.
In terms of the UK, hurtful words or insults are not illegal, and there has to be a geniune threat of violence that puts someone in geniune fear, the laws are quite specific on this and usually relate to death threats and rape threats.
Other laws than can be used relate to harrassment and stalking which is illegal in most democratic countries, or in cases of revenge porn or where false information is posted on-line that cause anxiety or harm, such as posting that someone is a paedophile.
This is a long way from simple trolling or hurtful words and insults.
The CPS is advising its prosecutors to be prepared to charge under existing laws if a case falls into one of three categories:
Category 1: when online activity results in a credible threat to an individual
Category 2: when someone is specifically targeted for harassment, stalking, so-called revenge porn or coercive behaviour to former partners or family members
Category 3: cases resulting in breaches of a court order
However, the guidance also sets out less serious situations where prosecutions should be considered under a fourth category: where a false identity is used to post upsetting messages, including false information that could cause anxiety.
Prosecution is for the Crown Prosecution Service to decide and any prosecution has to meet a high threshold, whilst in Court is has to be beyond reasonable doubt, a 99% Threshold.
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The old media hates the internet because it killed their propaganda monopoly. They also hate that the internet has exposed them for the bootlicking, elitist w****s that they are.
The media would like absolutely nothing more than a censored internet.
On this board.....perhaps. But there are paid trolls out there To poison the Internet waters so there's little constructive discourse on certain subjects.
There dont need to be paid trolls to poison the discourse. All we need for that is modern america, where left and right don't share basic values anymore. Let them interact and you have what is referred to as trolling.
Besides, the benefits for paid trolling just arent that good.
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Besides, the benefits for paid trolling just arent that good.
Honestly. You'd have to ask the Kremlin about the benefit or lack there of for paid trolls. I just know they exist.
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