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It's really unfortunate how many propagandized, misled people we have lacking critical thinking skills.
Public education should be known by all as a national asset. An educated population is essential to advancement of society and leadership in the world. Uniformity is important to prevent pockets of disadvantage and discrimination. Public school teachers are well trained and experienced. They should be the ones who design education and set standards but they should be paid according to the importance of their job. Higher pay will ensure that we attract the best to the task. Lower pay will cause the best to leave the field for better jobs. It takes little insight to realize this. It is obvious.
Other countries are exceeding us in education. Look into their pay scales for teachers. They pay more and they get more. And no, no one in my family is a teacher nor is associated with education. It's just common sense.
public schools are taxed and paid for AT THE LOCAL LEVEL
your comparison is like grapes to watermelon colored wallpaper
Both issues are about public funding. It's still money out of your pocket.
I don't want government designing and producing cars or shoes, but there are things that are entirely appropriate for government to provide and to keep out of private hands. Education is one of those things.
Only the government can ensure that it will go to all of the population equally to lead to higher chances of innovation (more educated people would create that, yes?) and that we see the benefits of living with educated people regardless of where you live in the USA (at least it should be, some places are ill-educated backwater and are lost causes).
Companies only have one goal, profit, and private schools can raise tuition as they please to go for the highest-paying customers. Looking at tuition of a private primary school today should prove that to you. Do you think the poor should have access to education, so maybe they can stop being poor one day?
Of course, no schools existed before government started erecting the State Indoctrination Camps. Now we are so "educated" that we know that only the State can "educate" us.
Only the government can ensure that it will go to all of the population equally...
Equally, ye say? How on earth could that be done? Are you talking about the wonder of standardized tests?
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...to lead to higher chances of innovation...
I don't see that public education creates a populace uniformly committed to the ideal of innovation; as a matter of fact I think it's rather the opposite, that public education creates non-critical conformist schlubs content with the status quo and an unexamined life.
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...the benefits of living with educated people regardless of where you live in the USA...
This is a 'wonderful happy world' interpretation but I think in truth public education is just barely enough to create minimally-able subjects.
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Do you think the poor should have access to education, so maybe they can stop being poor one day?
As I mentioned earlier, you have to do something to house millions of children throughout much of the day for much of the year, and it may as well be through publicly-funded warehouse schools I guess... I don't have any brood and never will, but I would always want CHOICE and wouldn't send a genetic offspring of mine to a public school.
What I know is I learned how to read when I was 3, could compute batting averages at around 6, had read all of the Time Life books and much of the World Book Encyclopedia by 15, and generally had learned nearly all of what I knew by 18 through my family and my own insatiable thirst for knowledge and experience. I did have some time in public schools. They were generally agents pushing me toward a hatred of learning, embarrassment for the acquisition and demonstration of knowledge, and apathy for the desultory topics and ponderous methods and pace of instruction.
If you're against universal healthcare, but support taxpayer-funded public schools (or vice versa) -- what do you think is the key distinction in why you don't support/oppose them both?
In order for that to be a valid comparison, healthcare would have to be provided by government owned hospitals.
In fact, your comparison is completely backwards because its the very same segment of society who supports taxpayer funded, paying for healthcare, who oppose vouchers in the schools, citing no taxpayer money to private industries.
Hmm...that's a good idea.
The government should recruit doctors who believe in universal healthcare to provide their services exclusively through the government.
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