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Dude....attacking the Iranian navy IS AN INVASION of Iran. That's full scale war. When Japan attacked our navy, that's exactly how we interpreted it, and the Iranians are no different.
You think they're gonna tolerate having their navy attacked? You think they aren't gonna respond back with s vengeance?
SMH...get real.
Yeah...you thought the Iraqis couldn't do Jack either. How'd that work out?
We DID attempt to destroy Iran in the 80's with a proxy war. Who do you think goaded Saddam Hussein into starting the war with Iran? Who do you think gave him those arms and chemical weapons?
BOTH times the US went after Iraq: we smashed them down in a few weeks. Tho to be fair; the 2nd Gulf war was a big mistake IMHO.
Iran and Iraq: neither side won and; I'm 100 percent sure the mad mullahs in Iran went "oh crap" when we took out Iraq both times.
BOTH times the US went after Iraq: we smashed them down in a few weeks. Tho to be fair; the 2nd Gulf war was a big mistake IMHO.
Iran and Iraq: neither side won and; I'm 100 percent sure the mad mullahs in Iran went "oh crap" when we took out Iraq both times.
LMAO....a few weeks? Yeah, against their conventional armies. A war with Iran won't be conventional. When the war in Iraq became asymmetrical, we got our asses handed to us.
And you're right, neither side won in the Iran-Iraq War. That's the point. Even with all of our support, the Iranians never folded. This time though, we won't have the Iraqis to do our fighting.
I'm trying to tell you war hawks that you're clueless. You wanna bite off more than you can chew. Attacking Iran is doomed to failure no matter how you look at it if you're being honest with yourself. And to do that, you've gotta get over your own hubris.
LMAO....a few weeks? Yeah, against their conventional armies. A war with Iran won't be conventional. When the war in Iraq became asymmetrical, we got our asses handed to us.
And you're right, neither side won in the Iran-Iraq War. That's the point. Even with all of our support, the Iranians never folded. This time though, we won't have the Iraqis to do our fighting.
I'm trying to tell you war hawks that you're clueless. You wanna bite off more than you can chew. Attacking Iran is doomed to failure no matter how you look at it if you're being honest with yourself. And to do that, you've gotta get over your own hubris.
Try again. EVERY time the US started coming down HARD in Iraq; it was Saddam and now daesh that got put in their place.
Iran: IMHO the mad mullahs ain't suicidal; otherwise those people would've really tried to provoke the US even tho we should've broken Iran's back over the hostage mess 35 years ago. Please don't forget Israel and, word is a LOT of the Arab countries don't like Iran, either.
An invasion of Iran would be pure insanity. The USA would incur the heaviest losses it has had since the Vietnam invasion.
I guess it would be important to note that Iran is not an arab country, but an Indo-European one, and the most westernized islamic state in the world. Iranians are tremendously proud of their culture, which is one of the oldest in the world too.
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Out in open waters, the actions of Iranian boats constitute a possible attack. If you allow a foreign nation's war ships within a certain distance then you risk coming under attack. The standard procedures include signaling and radio warnings. If the enemy ships don't heed the warnings then warning shots are the next step. If the enemy ships continue their actions then direct engagement is authorized and this ships can be sunk. This isn't USA being war mongers. This is internationally accepted rules of engagement in open waters among foreign Navies.
Here is what I do not understand: Iran is about as far away from the US as a country can get, so why in the hell are we concerned about them and even around the area? If Iran bothers us so much, how about just leave the damn area then? If neighbor countries have issues with Iran, let them spend their resources on doing something about it.
It is like going to a party uninvited, then complaining about how much the party sucks.
yeah, lets just give the waters of the persian gulf over to iran and let them control the waterways. let the worlds economy be screwed by iran when ever they decide to be obstinate.
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Originally Posted by victimofGM
Out in open waters, the actions of Iranian boats constitute a possible attack. If you allow a foreign nation's war ships within a certain distance then you risk coming under attack. The standard procedures include signaling and radio warnings. If the enemy ships don't heed the warnings then warning shots are the next step. If the enemy ships continue their actions then direct engagement is authorized and this ships can be sunk. This isn't USA being war mongers. This is internationally accepted rules of engagement in open waters among foreign Navies.
Iran and any other aggressors need to know that if U.S. warships are harassed or if foreign ships come within range of our 50 cal guns, unless they identify themselves and state the reason for being in close proximity to our ships, they WILL be fired upon.
BS meter is pegged! That's not a USN vessel unless it's a target ship...
The US hasn't ever lost a ship in the Gulf. The flipping Stark didn't even sink nor the Cole ( which wasn't even in the PG) Your Small boat action History lesson for today is to study Operations Ernest Will, Prime Chance, Nimble Archer and Praying Mantis.......
You are totally missing my point. That is indeed an Iranian ship up in flames. This is how we dealt with them back when a leader was in the white house
Try again. EVERY time the US started coming down HARD in Iraq; it was Saddam and now daesh that got put in their place.
Iran: IMHO the mad mullahs ain't suicidal; otherwise those people would've really tried to provoke the US even tho we should've broken Iran's back over the hostage mess 35 years ago. Please don't forget Israel and, word is a LOT of the Arab countries don't like Iran, either.
Lol...Israel ain't gonna do a damn thing but sit on the sidelines and laugh at us getting humiliated. They aren't gonna join in. They aren't that stupid.
Amazing how you're so impressed with our record in Iraq! 4500 dead. I guess "coming down hard" worked out really well.
You'd better back up offa that hubris you have and stick your chest back in. You don't want none of what Iran has to offer. Believe that. You're kidding yourself because you think that you're Billy Badass American.
That John Wayne stuff? Save it for the movies.
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