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That's really interesting that the Canadian government pays for that. I have never heard of that before.
Both were motorcycle accidents two decades apart but I have heard second hand of others. When you compare the cost of a hospital bed per day it does not take that many days to cover the trip plus doctor and drug fees are lower. It is actually the province that paid it as medicare is a provincial responsibility however the Federal government chips in a large amount of money so that they can set standards which must be met Re what coverage must be covered. Some things like home care may or may not be covered by a province. When my father was dying he did not go into a hospital because he did not want to so a nurse came to him, and I think most days the last 4 to 6 months and stayed full time the last few days. My father in law could not do that when he was dying as he lived on a farm and in a small town there were not the resources to drawfrom.
Lots of great things about our systems however some things suck too. We need to move up higher on the ratings.
Both were motorcycle accidents two decades apart but I have heard second hand of others. When you compare the cost of a hospital bed per day it does not take that many days to cover the trip plus doctor and drug fees are lower. It is actually the province that paid it as medicare is a provincial responsibility however the Federal government chips in a large amount of money so that they can set standards which must be met Re what coverage must be covered. Some things like home care may or may not be covered by a province. When my father was dying he did not go into a hospital because he did not want to so a nurse came to him, and I think most days the last 4 to 6 months and stayed full time the last few days. My father in law could not do that when he was dying as he lived on a farm and in a small town there were not the resources to drawfrom.
Lots of great things about our systems however some things suck too. We need to move up higher on the ratings.
The fact that Canada was like, "No, we will transport you all the way from Arizona because even if we do that it's still cheaper than treating you in the United States," says a lot haha.
I've said this in other UHC threads and I'll say it again. Canada's use of leaving the UHC to provinces rather than the federal level, with a mixture of the other top healthcare systems (like Italy) would work well in the United States. France, and Italy, is operated so the entire country works the same way without regional differences in the UHC. This matters because it actually makes their ranking higher, i.e. no disparities in healthcare. Now with regional, provincial/state-level differences, will create healthcare disparities, it will be the only way the system will work here. I do believe this could be one of the reasons why Canada is only #30 while the US is #37. Access won't be the same in different states which creates inequalities.
"second rate care" - lol. Not even gonna bother, you're a foreigner that I owe no explanation to. If you want to believe that, that's fine.
Canada and the US rank 30 and 37 for healthcare respectfully. If that ranking has any validity then obviously both nations have second rate care. For two premier first world nations to rank that poorly does not reflect positively on either nation. The problems Canadian healthcare has are obviously different from those of the US but still those who ranked the nations saw major problems with both systems. I am sorry you took offense, but that is how they have been ranked. Also for Canadians and Americans to refer to each other as "foreigners" is a bit laughable. While the two nations are separate sovereign entities they are hardly foreign to each other. I have lived near the Canadian border before, spent a good deal of time there. Also I will say I like Canada, but the last thing I thought of it as is "foreign". Sometimes Canadians work very hard to see the differences between the US and Canada, and when they find one they turn what is really a ditch into the Grand Canyon. True foreign people to North American often have trouble telling us apart and see little difference between the people of both nations. Very few if any nations on earth are as similar as the US and Canada. Another indisputable fact.
Do you really think we in the U.S., spending an average of $8,713/person per year, cannot do better than that when Canada is only spending $4,429/person per year? Really?
Your argument, as all such pro-private-profit arguments, assumes a pure duplication of conditions and methods for the U.S.
And there are horror stories right here in the U.S., too. Most Canadians are quite happy with their healthcare.
It is a great system and all free until you get sick.
I remember a time back around 2002 when I took a ride through Ontario and nearly all hospitals were closed waiting for the financial new year to begin.
And if the free Canadian system is so great why do so many wealthy Canadians head to the Cleveland Clinic when something really bad goes wrong?
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You just need to remember in socialist utopia all citizens are equal except some citizens are more equal than others.
I have a close family member in Canada who badly injured his knee. Eight months until the specialist appointment, six more months until his turn came up for the MRI. Now he's on a surgery list waiting for next January.
Isn't Canada who they were holding up as perfect health care?
Yes. And when my wife's brother was diagnosed with a very serious brain condition, his parents wisely beat feet to the US, early and often. He survived. He would have died in Canada.
There is a de facto two tier system in Canada.
At one time (recently), the waiting list in Nova Scotia for gastric band surgery (which can be life saving) was over two years.
And recently, there were three oncologists to serve an entire province (can't remember if it was Alberta or Saskatchwan).
There are more hospitals opening up than closing down in Southern Ontario. You are a foreigner so of course your idea about "Canadian healthcare" is very inaccurate. I live in Canada and will not waste any energy trying to set you right because it's not worth my time and you will likely not listen.
Canadians do not come to the USA for healthcare unless on vacation there. Outside of that it is very uncommon. We generally do not think about you or your healthcare (or using it) at all. You are irrelevant to us.
What about Danny Williams?? Lol
Oops!
(Wife is from your neighborhood....in-laws still there).
It is a great system and all free until you get sick.
I remember a time back around 2002 when I took a ride through Ontario and nearly all hospitals were closed waiting for the financial new year to begin.
And if the free Canadian system is so great why do so many wealthy Canadians head to the Cleveland Clinic when something really bad goes wrong?
You just need to remember in socialist utopia all citizens are equal except some citizens are more equal than others.
Lose the idea that any healthcare system is perfect as you'll never find one and to judge any countries healthcare system on a few cherry picked abnormalities is a poor way to judge a healthcare system..
Canadas healthcare system is not free,we pay substantial amounts in taxes to support the program.
Large numbers of Canadians going to the USA for their healthcare? http://www.aarp.org/politics-society...alth-care.html
As for things going bad?tell us more about your wonderful US healthcare system and the 30-40 million who have no healthcare at all. .https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...united-states/
It is a great system and all free until you get sick.
I remember a time back around 2002 when I took a ride through Ontario and nearly all hospitals were closed waiting for the financial new year to begin.
And if the free Canadian system is so great why do so many wealthy Canadians head to the Cleveland Clinic when something really bad goes wrong?
But here's Five of Toronto’s most exclusive private medical clinics
You just need to remember in socialist utopia all citizens are equal except some citizens are more equal than others.
What an absolute crock. At no point have hospitals closed due to lack of funding. They remain open 24/7 just as they always are. In some small rural areas the ER is not 24/7 but they have the ability to get someone to a nearby ER. That is nothing new and has been the case for decades... no different than small towns in the U.S.
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