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So you are saying that the climate is changing but it is irrespective of man's impact. You deniers need to get on the same page. Half of you are saying that there is no climate change at all, and half of you say that the climate IS changing but it isn't as a result of human activities.
Taking a trip from LA to NYC via a commercial jet leaves a carbon footprint a third the size of a US citizen's carbon footprint for the entire year and a carbon footprint over half of what a European makes in an entire year.
Should we ban all nonessential air transportation, especially leisure travel?
This is a question for everyone who believes man is changing the climate
Actually, don't answer here, I'm going to do a poll on another thread.
And NOTHING man can do will change it. The climate changes, FACT, it has changed since the earth began FACT.
Just another "the U.S. is evil and everything WE do is killing something,someone. WE are the problem, not anyone/anything else, just US.
You will notice that all these doomsayers are making millions off of their predictions/solutions and daily get in their private jets and fly all over the place to their private mansions that have a larger carbon footprint (whatever the hell that is supposed to be ) than 5-10 normal families.
Cry me a river, seriously, please, as we're in a drought....
As for the ocean rise, maybe there's too many new cruise ships/yachts bobbing around and that's raising the levels? Lets take out some of 'em and see if the levels go down? Kind of like putting more ice in your kale smoothy, the level goes up right?
You are less than inadequately informed. If it weren't for right wing propaganda and gullibility, you would not be saying such things. All your arguments have been debunked long ago.
Taking a trip from LA to NYC via a commercial jet leaves a carbon footprint a third the size of a US citizen's carbon footprint for the entire year and a carbon footprint over half of what a European makes in an entire year.
Should we ban all nonessential air transportation, especially leisure travel?
This is a question for everyone who believes man is changing the climate
Actually, don't answer here, I'm going to do a poll on another thread.
Yes, air travel puts a huge amount of CO2 in the atmosphere. While the MPG/passenger of commercial air travel is comparable to automobile transport, the miles-traveled is high.
I believe that AGW is real, so I rarely take vacations that require air travel. I take more local vacations. It saves a ton of $$$ too. There's a lot of neat stuff within a short drive of where I live, so it's not a big sacrifice.
Taking a trip from LA to NYC via a commercial jet leaves a carbon footprint a third the size of a US citizen's carbon footprint for the entire year and a carbon footprint over half of what a European makes in an entire year.
Should we ban all nonessential air transportation, especially leisure travel?
Not until we analyze this and determine how this compares, per person, to carbon emissions resulting from driving the average car to make the same trip because in many cases that would be the alternative.
Let's see... "a carbon footprint a third the size of a US citizen's carbon footprint for the entire year".
So that would be a "a carbon footprint the size of a US citizen's carbon footprint for 4 months" or about 120 days. Divide that by the average number of passengers on such a flight. That seems to be about 100. 120/100=1.2
So each passenger's share of the carbon footprint (using these calculations if they are valid) created by flying from LA to NYC would be equal to that person's carbon footprint for 1.2 days.
Any carbon is not good, but the original wording makes it sound absolutely horrible. Not so when it is broken down.
Well, you can see that the scientifically illiterate make up most posters on threads about climate change. No matter how hard you try, these folks are hard wired to reject science through years of conditioning from denialist websites and FAUX News.
I just want to get on the scam and milk a few million from some gullible fools for some perceived solution to a problem that is genned up with no real solution....want to join the scam on the profit side.
When the proponents of GW stop taking private jets across the planet to tell others they have to turn out their lights, start using sail and row boats, feet and bikes for travel, and turn off their lights, I'll take them seriously.
As long as the flock are willing to be shorn, the shears will continue to appear in one guise or another.
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) than 5-10 normal families.
