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Even if you accept that Humans may have nothing to do with climate change does not mean the climate is NOT changing. The question is how we are going to cope with a rising sea level and radical changes in rainfall patterns.
Justin Adams was a managing Director at British Petroleum for 10 years, now works for the Nature Conservancy. They have been working on Carbon injection into rock formations and achieving a reduction through land use and farming, this doesn't replace the need for a reduction in fossil fuel consumption. There is already quite an impact around the globe and we are way behind the curve, all these impacts will get attention, I don't see how it can be denied.
Global warming will be a net benefit for humans. Sure some people who were stupid enough to build at water's edge will have to move, but there are many other benefits. Since more people die from cold than heat, we can expect death rates to decline. Look at all the people that move from cold climates to warm climates, especially when they retire. Global warming will slow this trend. Warmer temperatures in the northern latitudes will also help with agriculture yeilds, so we will have more food to feed the growing population. Biodiversity will also increase as warmer climates encourage greater growth and adaptation. Etc.
Some really interesting solutions here, 44% of the worlds population live within 100 miles of the ocean it's a bit more than a few. Look at all the major cities at the edge of the water, NY, DC, Baltimore, Miami, the cost is going to be trillions. Miami, Norfolk and others already have severe flooding. I saw where an Alaskan Village is relocating, several inhabited islands in the Chesapeake are disappearing yet several states continue to sue the EPA relative to carbon limits. Penny wise but dollar foolish, maybe they haven't educated all those people about to be relocated about the great benefits of global warming.
It has been about 14,000 years since the land bridge closed due to sea level rise.
This sea level increase has averaged about 3mm per year since that time.
False.
<<If you look more closely at the past 2,000 years, you can see that sea level also goes through some less dramatic changes. For the first 900 years A.D., it was very steady. Then it rose gradually for the next 600 years or so, then fell even more gradually until about 1900. But at that point — just as greenhouse gases and global temperatures began to increase significantly — sea level began to rise faster than at any time over the previous 2,000 years, and has climbed about eight inches over the past century. That rise, climate scientists agree, is likely to accelerate.>>
The primary cause of the rising sea levels is melting land ice, especially in Greenland, and the melt is accelerating. Please read the following explanation from NASA carefully.
<<Ice loss near the poles is one of the most critical changes pushing sea levels higher, a conclusion supported by data of increasing weight and accuracy. Greenland’s contribution to global sea-level rise is the largest, and increases every decade. Studies suggest that its melt grew from 0.09 millimeters per year between 1992 and 2001, expressed as the global sea-level rise equivalent, to 0.59 millimeters per year between 2002 and 2011 [Velicogna et al, 2014]....
Measurement of the Earth’s many glaciers and ice caps—smaller ice masses that are not a part of the Greenland or Antarctic ice sheets— show accelerated retreat. Together, they also account for about a third of the present sea level rise planet-wide (between 2.6 and 2.9 millimeters per year over at least the past 20 years). That places these smaller ice masses in the top three contributors to sea level rise, along with the warming of ocean water, which causes it to increase in volume, and the melting of the great ice sheets of Greenland and Antarctica. The largest losses are from Arctic Canada, Alaska and coastal Greenland, but with significant contributions from other regions, such as the Andes in southern Chile, Argentina or the Himalayas [Gardner et al., 2013]. >>
Frightfully but fortunately, the oceans have absorbed 90 percent of the heat trapped on earth by increased levels of greenhouse gases. This has resulted in an expanding volume of water in the oceans, according to the above NASA analysis.
<<The warming of Earth is primarily due to accumulation of heat-trapping greenhouse gases, and more than 90 percent of this trapped heat is being absorbed by the oceans. Water volume rises with temperature because of thermal expansion—another major driver of sea level rise. The estimated rate of thermal expansion, or thermosteric sea level rise, from 1971 to 2010 is 0.4 to 0.8 millimeters per year; the estimate carries a confidence level of 90 to 100 percent [Rhein et al., 2013]. >>
The ongoing collapse of the Antarctica ice shields, which forebodes a Greenland-like acceleration of Antarctica glacier loss, suggests the possibility of accelerating sea level rises in coming decades.
<<Flask's acceleration, while the remnant has been weakening, may be just a preview of what will happen when the remnant breaks up completely. After the 2002 Larsen B collapse, the glaciers behind the collapsed part of the shelf accelerated as much as eightfold – comparable to a car accelerating from 55 to 440 mph.>>
I predict a cooling trend because of the increased seismic and volcanic activity. The core of the Earth has been heating for some time and is essentially "blowing off" this pent up energy by moving tectonic plates and popping volcanoes all over the world, some that had laid dormant for thousands of years and thought dead.
My prediction is not scientific, just common sense. Since global climate change has turned from science to religion I think my common sense is just as good.
The climate has changed continuously for millions of years. No reason to get all worked up now.
Based even on this thread, the dismissive smugness of science deniers in the face of overwhelming empirical evidence of man-made climate change just in the last 150 years, is both disturbing and illustrative of human nature.
Whether mankind as a whole can use its ability to reason to overcome greed and indifference to future generations likely will determine the fate of the entire planet in coming decades. The issue isn't man-made climate change, but, in a larger sense, whether reason can triumph over primal instincts and allow mankind to save itself from a disaster.
The evidence in the U.S., and especially among the Republican Party leadership and base, does not bode well for mankind passing this test given the relentless and accelerating nature of man-made climate change.
Methane releases at any time could begin to enter the atmosphere in large quantities, at which time our ability to limit the damage could by man-made climate change could be overwhelmed. See post 52.
There is something horribly wrong with every one of your sentences. You're denying reality and facts. Exxon-Mobile said so in 1977.
not denying the facts, but it looks like you are. climate change has been around since the beginning of the planet earth. you should call it for what it is, global warming, but then you could not get the following that you currently have and could never get government support.
global warming fanatics should have it as their religion and stop the funding of global warming.
when it is too hot you scream global warming, and when it is too cold you also scream global warming.
but when you want taxes and more federal funding, you call it climate change.
not denying the facts, but it looks like you are. climate change has been around since the beginning of the planet earth. you should call it for what it is, global warming, but then you could not get the following that you currently have and could never get government support.
global warming fanatics should have it as their religion and stop the funding of global warming.
when it is too hot you scream global warming, and when it is too cold you also scream global warming.
but when you want taxes and more federal funding, you call it climate change.
FACT: If you dig deep enough in Northern Minnesota you find fossils of tropic plant life. A little more shallow you find evidence of an ice age. A little more shallow you find evidence of a desert. And it goes on and on.
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