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Old 08-28-2016, 08:57 AM
 
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The issue isn't earth's past earth climates, but the impact of man-made climate change in the 20th and especially the 21st centuries. The evidence is that a mounting crisis is at hand, but science deniers would have us think we're helpless to deal with this problem.

Science deniers either don't give a damn about future generations, or are unable to comprehend the environmental destruction that lies ahead if we continue on our present path.
Almost all of the AGW loons don't give a damn either and believe that posting on the internet fixes their make believe problems.

 
Old 08-28-2016, 08:58 AM
 
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I predict a cooling trend because of the increased seismic and volcanic activity. The core of the Earth has been heating for some time and is essentially "blowing off" this pent up energy by moving tectonic plates and popping volcanoes all over the world, some that had laid dormant for thousands of years and thought dead.

My prediction is not scientific, just common sense. Since global climate change has turned from science to religion I think my common sense is just as good.
Is this more pop-up junk science? Where's is the peer-reviewed research justifying these statements.

<<The Earth (including its core) is cooling over time, for similar reasons to those which govern the cooling of a cup of tea: The surroundings are generally cooler, and heat is lost to them through a variety of mechanisms (mostly radiation in the case of the Earth). This cooling process is, however, very slow: The Earth's temperature is reducing by something like 1°C every ten million years*, so there's no need to start panicking just yet.>>

Blogstronomy: Is the core temperature of the Earth changing?

I'm tired of playing whack-a-mole with science deniers.
 
Old 08-28-2016, 09:03 AM
 
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Is this more pop-up junk science? Where's is the peer-reviewed research justifying these statements.

<<The Earth (including its core) is cooling over time, for similar reasons to those which govern the cooling of a cup of tea: The surroundings are generally cooler, and heat is lost to them through a variety of mechanisms (mostly radiation in the case of the Earth). This cooling process is, however, very slow: The Earth's temperature is reducing by something like 1°C every ten million years*, so there's no need to start panicking just yet.>>

Blogstronomy: Is the core temperature of the Earth changing?

I'm tired of playing whack-a-mole with science deniers.
The core has cycles just like the sun. Up and down but yes, on average is cooling slightly over the eons.

Did they give you a special robe when you joined this Climate Scientology Cult? I've always wondered that.
 
Old 08-28-2016, 09:14 AM
 
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not denying the facts, but it looks like you are. climate change has been around since the beginning of the planet earth. you should call it for what it is, global warming, but then you could not get the following that you currently have and could never get government support.

global warming fanatics should have it as their religion and stop the funding of global warming.

when it is too hot you scream global warming, and when it is too cold you also scream global warming.
but when you want taxes and more federal funding, you call it climate change.
Sounds like Marco Rubio.

Media Glossing Over Climate Science Denial By GOP "Establishment" Candidates

The Republican mantra is to deny man-made climate change, to refuse to do anything to address the causes of the mounting crisis, but to drain ever larger federal resources from non-coastal states in order to "mitigate" the results of rising sea levels.

Florida Republicans Demand Climate Change Solutions - Scientific American

It's frightening that one of America's two prime political parties is dominated by science deniers. Donald Trump wants to accelerate American fossil fuel production and usage, inclusive of coal consumption.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/27/us...licy.html?_r=0
 
Old 08-28-2016, 09:20 AM
 
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"Science Deniers" = HERETICS!

Burn them at the stake!
 
Old 08-28-2016, 09:23 AM
 
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I predict a cooling trend because of the increased seismic and volcanic activity. The core of the Earth has been heating for some time and is essentially "blowing off" this pent up energy by moving tectonic plates and popping volcanoes all over the world, some that had laid dormant for thousands of years and thought dead.

My prediction is not scientific, just common sense. Since global climate change has turned from science to religion I think my common sense is just as good.
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The core has cycles just like the sun. Up and down but yes, on average is cooling slightly over the eons.

Did they give you a special robe when you joined this Climate Scientology Cult? I've always wondered that.
So science deniers just pull their alleged facts out-of-the-air, contradicting themselves when challenged? Still no substantiation for your comments.

Scientifically-minded persons certainly aren't in cults or wear robes, but they do typically earn university degrees often with significant education in the scientific method.

Cults, insults, muddled reasoning based on ignorance or deceit, those attributes are left to science deniers.
 
Old 08-28-2016, 09:27 AM
 
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So science deniers just pull their alleged facts out-of-the-air, contradicting themselves when challenged? Still no substantiation for your comments.

Scientifically-minded persons certainly aren't in cults or wear robes, but they do typically earn university degrees often with significant education in the scientific method.

Cults, insults, muddled reasoning based on ignorance or deceit, those attributes are left to science deniers.
Kifflom brother brother.
 
Old 08-28-2016, 09:41 AM
 
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Default Record global warming

2014 was the warmest year in global recorded history, until 2015. Yet 2016 is smashing all heat records.

<<Global mean temperatures in July 2016 were the warmest on record not just for July, but for any month dating to the late 1800s, according to four separate newly-released analyses....

Given that the first seven months of 2016 have all been record warm, the planet has also had its warmest January-July on record. Parts of Africa, North America, South America, Asia, Europe and Australia had a record warm January-July in 2016.

This year will likely end up being the earth's warmest year on record, topping both 2015 and 2014.>>

https://weather.com/news/climate/new...erature-record

Donald Trump, Republicans: "Let's party like there's no tomorrow." Nero would be proud.

"Let's not let evidence get in the way of our pontifications."
 
Old 08-28-2016, 09:56 AM
 
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Based even on this thread, the dismissive smugness of science deniers in the face of overwhelming empirical evidence of man-made climate change just in the last 150 years, is both disturbing and illustrative of human nature.

Whether mankind as a whole can use its ability to reason to overcome greed and indifference to future generations likely will determine the fate of the entire planet in coming decades. The issue isn't man-made climate change, but, in a larger sense, whether reason can triumph over primal instincts and allow mankind to save itself from a disaster.

The evidence in the U.S., and especially among the Republican Party leadership and base, does not bode well for mankind passing this test given the relentless and accelerating nature of man-made climate change.

Methane releases at any time could begin to enter the atmosphere in large quantities, at which time our ability to limit the damage could by man-made climate change could be overwhelmed. See post 52.
There is no evidence of manmade climate change. Indeed, if man had the power to change the climate then climate change would be a non-issue.
 
Old 08-28-2016, 10:02 AM
 
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Individuals are not the solution to such problems. It takes legislation. It takes changes that affect everyone. Righties tried that same individual garbage when they've said if someone thinks income taxes are too low they should voluntarily send in more money with their tax returns. It's a BS tactic.





And there we have it!


The "BS tactic" is statists pretending they are concerned with anything except making earners permanent tax slaves.


Legislation, as it would apply in this case, places the state over the individual and that has always been the true goal of the CAGW crowd.
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