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Old 08-31-2016, 08:49 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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It's like they never knew.....
That you people keep blaming G.W. Bush shows your level of hatred for Bush, when the fact is, it was Bush's predecessor, bill Clinton, who ignored the information and therefor is responsible for "letting" the Muslims fly planes into the WTC. Bush had only been in the White House for 7 months when the attack occurred.

I's like you never knew!

What did Bill Clinton do with the info when he received it? That plan had a long time to hatch before Bush entered the White House, and he didn't receive that briefing till a few months later after he had inquired as to "what do we know." (This was widely reported. I'm surprised you don't know about this.)
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Old 08-31-2016, 09:11 AM
 
Location: Proxima Centauri
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It was Obama`s predecessor who let terrorists fly planes into our skyscrapers. I`m surprised you forgot that already.
Doesn't it just boggle the mind. Then Obama authorizes a mission to kill Bin Laden and succeeds. We have to wonder just what the motive is for these Republicans that have such a short memory.
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Old 08-31-2016, 09:12 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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All the terror attacks have been from US citizens that were either born or raised here.
Not true. The Boston Bombers were Syrian.

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Do you call Sandy Hook.
No. Shooter was not a terrorist.
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Sikh Temple
Possibly, last I heard.
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Charleston church terror attacks?
No. Shooter was not a terrorist.
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What is the criteria for an international terrorist attack in the US.
I think you know what we're talking about here. So, let's not play games.
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Old 08-31-2016, 09:15 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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That you people keep blaming G.W. Bush shows your level of hatred for Bush, when the fact is, it was Bush's predecessor, bill Clinton, who ignored the information and therefor is responsible for "letting" the Muslims fly planes into the WTC. Bush had only been in the White House for 7 months when the attack occurred.
Correction.... AGAIN!!!:

"Ignored"? What should a president do about such a warning? -attack someone???

Under Clinton, the CIA and the National Security Council instituted a special al-Qaida unit that thwarted several deadly conspiracies, including a scheme to blow up Los Angeles International Airport on Millennium Eve, and plots to bomb the Holland and Lincoln Tunnels in New York City as well as the United Nations building.

A month before Clinton left office -- and nine months before the planes hit the World Trade Center and the Pentagon -- the nation's most experienced diplomats in counterterrorism praised those efforts. "Overall, I give them very high marks," said Robert Oakley, former Ambassador for Counterterrorism in the Reagan State Department.

Paul Bremer, who had served in the same post under Reagan and later was chosen by congressional leaders to chair the National Commission on Terrorism, disagreed slightly with his colleague. Bremer told the Washington Post he believed that the Clinton administration had "correctly focused on bin Laden."

By December 2000, Clarke had prepared plans for a military operation to attack Osama bin Laden in Afghanistan, go after terrorist financing and work with police officials around the world to take down the terrorist network.

Because Clinton was to leave office in a few weeks, he decided against handing Bush a war in progress as he worked to put a new administration together. (Eight years later Bush wasn't so considerate.)

Instead, Clarke briefed national security adviser Condoleezza Rice, Cheney and others. He emphasized that time was short and action was urgent. The Bush administration sat on the report for months and months. The first high-level discussion took place on Sept. 4, 2001, just a week before the attacks.

On Clinton's watch, the CIA and the National Security Council instituted a special al-Qaida unit that thwarted several deadly conspiracies, including a scheme to blow up Los Angeles International Airport on Millennium Eve, and plots to bomb the Holland and Lincoln Tunnels in New York City as well as the United Nations building. Timely American intelligence also prevented a deadly assault on the Israeli embassy in Washington. Meanwhile, the State Department and the CIA neutralized dozens of terrorist cells overseas through quiet prosecutions, extraditions, and executions undertaken by allies from Albania to the Philippines.


Then there is the 9/11 Commission Report:

"There were more than 40 intelligence articles in the PDBs from January 20 to September 10, 2001, that related to Bin Ladin." - 9-11 Commission Report pp. 254

"In the spring of 2001, the level of reporting on terrorist threats and planned attacks increased dramatically to its highest level since the millennium alert.At the end of March, the intelligence community disseminated a terrorist threat advisory, indicating a heightened threat of Sunni extremist terrorist attacks against U.S. facilities, personnel, and other interests." - 9-11 Commission Report pp. 255

"On June 25, Clarke warned Rice and Hadley that six separate intelligence reports showed al Qaeda personnel warning of a pending attack."- 9-11 Commission Report pp. 257

"On June 28, Clarke wrote Rice that the pattern of al Qaeda activity indicating attack planning over the past six weeks had reached a crescendo. A series of new reports continue to convince me and analysts at State, CIA, DIA [Defense Intelligence Agency], and NSA that a major 'terrorist attack or series of attacks is likely in July,' he noted. One al Qaeda intelligence report warned that something 'very, very, very, very' big was about to happen, and most of Bin Ladin's network was reportedly anticipating the attack."- 9-11 Commission Report pp. 257

"That same day(July 5th), the CIA briefed Attorney General 'Az croft' (it won't let me type the actual name!!!) on the al Qaeda threat, warning that a significant terrorist attack was imminent. 'Az croft' was told that preparations for multiple attacks were in late stages or already complete and that little additional warning could be expected." - 9-11 Commission Report pp. 258-259

"On June 30, the SEIB contained an article titled 'Bin Ladin Threats Are Real.' Yet Hadley told Tenet in July that Deputy Secretary of Defense Paul Wolfowitz questioned the reporting."- 9-11 Commission Report pp. 259

"During the spring and summer of 2001,President Bush had on several occasions asked his briefers whether any of the threats pointed to the United States. Reflecting on these questions, the CIA decided to write a briefing article summarizing its understanding of this danger.Two CIA analysts involved in preparing this briefing article believed it represented an opportunity to communicate their view that the threat of a Bin Ladin attack in the United States remained both current and serious. The result was an article in the August 6 Presidential Daily Brief titled 'Bin Ladin Determined to Strike in US.' "- 9-11 Commission Report pp. 260 This also happened to be when Mr. Bush was on vacation in Crawford Texas.

"Late in the month, a foreign service reported that Abu Zubaydah was considering mounting terrorist attacks in the United States, after postponing possible operations in Europe. No targets, timing, or method of attack were provided."- 9-11 Commission Report pp. 262

Your right wing rewrite of history is hereby refuted and exposed.... AGAIN!!
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Old 08-31-2016, 09:19 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Doesn't it just boggle the mind. Then Obama authorizes a mission to kill Bin Laden and succeeds. We have to wonder just what the motive is for these Republicans that have such a short memory.
Off topic. This thread is not about 9/11 or Bin Laden. It's about US Security and the failure of Obama's policies to stop terrorism in the U.S. He has issued a policy paper (cited in the O.P.). That policy has not worked, in large part because he has allowed the infiltration of Muslim Brotherhood operatives into the very agencies that are supposed to be engaged in counter terrorism, including the White House, the FBI, the DHS, and even the Pentagon.

Obama's policies totally ignore the "civilization jihad," the Muslim Brotherhood plan to destroy the United States:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFxNPvns7nU

We have Muslim Brotherhood operatives inside the White House, advising President Obama, and inside the FBI advising that organization on "counter terrorism strategy!" Does that make sense? Especially in light of this:

Thou Shalt Lie

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Old 08-31-2016, 09:20 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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There are people who are uninformed, and there are people who are willfully misinformed. Those who are misinformed commonly cling for dear life to their misinformation and propaganda. We have such people still trying to blame Clinton for 9/11.
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Old 08-31-2016, 09:22 AM
 
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The Boston Bombers were Syrian.
Maybe in your special Trump world. One was a citizen and the other had a green card, a legal status.

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What is the criteria for an international terrorist attack in the US.
I would think it would be a terrorist act committed by citizens/legal residents of a foreign state.
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Old 08-31-2016, 09:22 AM
 
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Off topic. This thread is not about 9/11 or Bin Laden.
You raise the issue of Clinton and 9/11 ya dope!
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Old 08-31-2016, 09:53 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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You raise the issue of Clinton and 9/11 ya dope!
Thanks for that personal attack, but I'm not a "dope" and it was someone else that originally raised the issue of 9/11 here and others continue it. READ THE THREAD!
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Old 08-31-2016, 10:02 AM
 
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"Should it be legal to President while black?" Today on Fox News Talking Heads.
What does this have to do with the topic of this thread?
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