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Old 02-03-2017, 01:12 PM
 
Location: The 719
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Well, here is a question for Mr. X. What have the Republicans done for Blacks over the last 45 years? Don't bring up this "Party of Lincoln" crap. I am talking about 1970-now, nothing earlier than that.
Sat around and watched the media, DNC, Academia, Hollywood, etc. Lie lie lie.

Oh, and we are gonna go History Lesson on you too.

Who started the Republican Party? Abraham Lincoln. The Democratic Party? In 1820, Andrew Jackson.

Jackson screwed over the Native Americans for the Democrats’ vote – Indian Removal Bill.

National Republican Senator Frelinghuysen opposed taking Indian land by violence. National Republican Congressman Davy Crockett also opposed this.

Democrats passed it, Jackson signed it into law.

Alexis de Tocqueville, the French observer of Early American History describes the air of destruction of most celebrated and ancient American Peoples a “Trail of Tears.”

Besides stealing land of the Indians, Democrats also embraced slavery on plantations.
Jackson owned hundreds of slaves. He had Betty receive 50 lashes for washing neighbors’ clothes without his permission.
Jackson, in 1804, ran an add for the return of a runaway slave, offering $50.00 for the return, and $10.00 for each 100 lashings, up to 300 lashings, essentially a death sentence.
Jackson didn’t just steal their labor. He raped young women.

Republicans formed to end slavery and to free runaway slaves.

John C. Calhoun was one of the most notorious Democratic defenders (and Senator) of slavery. He said that slavery benefited both parties.

Today, Democrats duck responsibility by trying to blame the South. But Northern Democrats tried to protect slavery. One such advocate was Illinois Senator Steven Douglass. He thought each state should decide for/against slavery. He wanted slavery all over the world, not just here.

Republicans wanted to end the spread of slavery. Republican Senator Charles Sumner (1856) denounced slavery.
Preston Brooks, Democratic Congressman, physically attacked him from behind with a cane, nearly killing him.
Lincoln considered slavery a “form of theft.”
“You work, I eat.”
Democratic Propaganda states the Civil War as being a contest between anti-Slavery North vs. the pro-Slavery South. This is a lie. The Civil War was about a war between the Abolitionists and those who wanted Slavery.
Lincoln said, “The judgment of the Lord are true and righteous altogether.”

But didn’t some Republicans own slaves? No. All the slaves at the time of the Civil War were owned by Democrats.

So, the Civil War is best known as a contest between the anti-slavery Republican Party and the Pro-Slavery Democratic Party.

Lincoln wanted to give freed slaves citizenship, equal rights, and the right to vote.
The Democrats couldn’t believe it.
Lincoln was assassinated.

Democratic Party Legacy:
Oppression
Indian Massacres
Broken Treaties
Slavery
But they claim to be the party of the Civil Rights Movement of the 1960s.
But that was just an Act. There already was a Civil Rights Movement lead by the Republican Party from back in the 1860s.

The 1960s Act merely tried to claim laws that were already put into the Constitution 100 years previously by the, that’s right, Republicans.
A little known fact, more Republicans than Democrats voted for the 1964 Civil Rights Act.
Today’s Democrats take credit for Civil Rights legislation.
So what’s their contribution? They finally agreed to stop filibustering it so it could pass.

“40 Acres and a Mule”
The Republican Party set aside 400,000 acres of confiscated Confederate land and began dividing it to give freed slaves 40 acres and a left-over army mule.
Democratic President Andrew Johnson gave the land back to its former plantation owners.

Democrats claim to be the “Party of Economic Opportunity”, but they opposed the 13th Amendment.
Slavery Abolishment: Republicans were 100% for, Democrats were 77% against.
Democrats claim to be the Party of “Social Justice”, but they fought the 14th Amendment, which gives citizenship to Blacks and established equality of rights under the law.
14th Amendment: Republicans 94% for, Democrats 0% for.
Democrats lecture Republicans over Racial Equality.
Racial Equality: the Democrats voted against the 15th Amendment, refusing to give slaves the right to vote.
15th Amendment: Republicans 100% for, Democrats 100% against.
Republicans also gave women the right to vote. Suffragettes were virtually all Republican, Democrats opposed Suffragettes. They fought it and lost in Congress. Then they fought it in the States where they lost again.

Democrats New Plan: Carol Swain from Vanderbilt Law School is an expert on Race Relations and Civil Rights; After Civil War in 1865, the Democratic Party was in ruins and they needed a New Plan.
The Ku Klux Klan was founded by Nathan Bedford Forrest. He was the first Grand Wizard and a pledged delegate to the Democratic Convention.
The whole purpose of the Democratic Party was to reestablish White Supremacy.
1868, the party platform was “This is a white man’s country, let a white man rule.”
Black Republicans and White Republicans were its targets.
Congressman James Hinds was the first sitting member of Congress assassinated.
During the Klans’ long reign of terror, they killed over 3,000 blacks and over 1,000 white Republicans.
The Ku Klux Klan was the military arm of the Democratic Party.

Why has all of this been swept under the rug? To cover the tracks of the Democratic Party.

The violence of racism carried well into the 20th Century, at other times, it merely changed forms.

Ida B. Wells refused to give up her 1st Class train seat to a white man. She was a Republican, working for a Republican paper. She fought for a Black Man’s 2nd Amendment right and wanted a Winchester in their home to defend themselves against the KKK.

Early Democrats opposition to the 2nd Amendment had a racist motive. In fact, almost every thing they did had a racist motive.

Why did the KKK have a revival in the early 20th Century?
Another fan of the KKK was President Woodrow Wilson. “The Birth of a Nation” by D.W. Griffith, -the first movie screened in the White House.

In 1914, Ida B. Wells confronted Woodrow Wilson for his racist views.
She called him out for removing black officials from top jobs and putting them in menial jobs, janitors, etc.
He said segregation is good for both.
He continued to segregate the Federal Government.

1924: Democratic National Convention: “The Klan Bake”
10s of 1000s of Klansmen marched on New York City shouting racist slogans and burning crosses to celebrate the Democratic Party’s refusal to condemn the KKK in their platform.

The New Deal:
FDR didn’t have the votes to pass the New Deal program, so he promised the Democratic Party that he would block any anti-lynching legislation and he would exclude blacks from most New Deal programs.
White farmers were paid to not grow crops which meant many Blacks lost their jobs.
So most blacks, if they worked on the land, if they worked as maids, if they were paid in cash, they couldn’t get Social Security.
Johnson knew he had the Black vote, but privately, he knew the Black voters outnumbered the White voters in Texas.
Called the Negro Bill, he said, “We got to give them just enough but not enough to make a difference.”
Democrats are still trying to use Black Peoples’ vote for their own gain.

Deny, Deny, Deny, Shift Blame, Shift Blame, Shift Blame. That’s all they do.

Bill Mahr: “If you are racist, you’re probably a Republican.”

The Big Switch:
Senator Strom Thurmond was a racist Democrat who became a Republican.
But wait a minute. The Blacks switched to the Democratic Party in the 1930s, based on the promises of the New Deal.
They didn’t do it due to Race. They knew they were joining the party of the KKK and the party of segregation.
Southern Whites moved over to the Republican Party much later, during the 1970s to 90s, as the South became much more prosperous.
Racism had declined dramatically in the South. So as the South became less racist, it became more Republican.
So Blacks and Whites switched parties for economic reasons.
The proof of this is in Byron Shafer and Richard Johnson’s book, “The End of Southern Exceptionalism.” It shows the poorest, most racist Whites never switched.
The Whites that did switch from Democrats to Republicans, “were the non-racists, who were attracted to the Republican Party’s message of opportunity, prosperity, and upward mobility.”

So, besides Strom Thurmond, who else switched from Democrat to Republican?
Leaders of the KKK?
Leaders of other racist organizations?
Democratic Congressmen?
Democratic Senators from 1860-2000?
All who voted against the Civil Rights Act of 1964?
14 of 1600, so less than 1%

The Big Switch is a Big Lie.

The Democrats didn’t switch from being the Bad Guys to the Good Guys, the simply found a new and better scam.

Millions of Southern Blacks moved north, joined by millions of immigrants, from all over the world. So the Democrats got an idea; Let’s recreate the plantation, but now do it in the inner city.
Obama- Dreams from my Father, “Seemed like we’d always be second-class citizens. Plantation Politics.” So evidently, Plantation talk was coming from Barack’s dad.
Black people in the worst jobs, worst housing, police brutality rampant, but when the so-called black committeemen came around election time… “We’d all line up and vote the Straight Democratic Ticket. Sell our souls for a Christmas Turkey. White folks spitting in our faces, and we’d reward them with a vote.”
So what has Obama done to get rid of the Democratic Plantation? Nothing.
That’s because he’s running it.
These plantations weren’t just for Blacks, they were also for other minorities and immigrants.
When these groups arrived, they found waiting for them a Democratic Welcoming Committee.
They helped them out, got them a place to live, got them jobs.
The immigrant plantation had their own names; ghettoes, slums, barrios.
Welcome to America!
The Democrats built them, put these vulnerable people in them, and made sure no one left them.
Nothing’s free. They made sure these folks voted for them.

Gangs have bosses who control them. The Democrats invented the “Big City” Boss.
They didn’t just control politics, they also controlled industry, Unions.
Once in power, they steal the city treasury and shake-down businesses.
This makes them the “Original Community Organizers.”
Inner City racket.
Research Richard J. Daley
Johah Goldberg is an editor at the National Review. “Democrats used to like to be called Liberals.”
Today, it’s Progressive. What does Progressive mean? Social engineering, social control.
U.S. : Progressivism
USSR: Communism
Italy: Fascism

The Holocaust started off as progressive ideas, experimentation, planning, eugenics.

Margaret Sanger – Silver Lake New Jersey 1926. – Planned Parenthood.
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Old 02-03-2017, 05:03 PM
 
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Well, if the Republicans want Blacks to vote for them, they better apologize for the southern strategy. They better purge the party of those who have pandered to bigots or have said bigated things. No making assumptions that all Blacks want is "free stuff".
"Well, if the Republicans want Blacks to vote for them, they better apologize for the southern strategy."

WELL, why don't you come into 2017.

What may or may not have happened 50 or so years ago is NOT relevant now.

" They better purge the party of those who have pandered to bigots or have said bigated things."

When is the dem going to purge the party of those who have pandered to bigots or have said bigated things."?

Gee, it IS easy to through out juvenile insults and charge people of all sorts of things.

It's no wonder people like you do it so much!

"When you have NOTING of VALUE to add, throw out insults!"
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Old 02-03-2017, 05:12 PM
 
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LOL McGow - Lincoln didn't start the Republican party....

Also Republicans in the 1850s/1860s were liberals and Democrats were conservatives...

I'm sure you know that but like to depend on conservative blogs that tell you that Republicans were always what they are today. FYI - Frederick Douglass was also a Republican and he was considered a liberal, anti-slavery, radical just like all the rest of them...
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Old 02-03-2017, 05:19 PM
 
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Rest assured you read way too much into my post to him. Also rest assured he spews the liberal talking points far too well out of the Democratic playbook to be a moderate. That is his right of course, but don't try to say you are one thing when the actions show you to be another.
I do not support any of the hate groups, whether they be any shade of skin color. That includes what the liberals/leftists/progressives fail to call hate groups, to include the BP's, BLM, etc.

Quick personal story.

I was on a cruise a while back, and we were slated to share our meals with another couple at an asigned table.
They seemed nice enough when our conversations were not related to politics. But once that line was crossed, I found myself listening to them rant about the evils of conservatives. Being on a week long cruise, the last thing I wanted was to trapped every meal listening to political discussions, so I agreed with them on common thoughts, but remained silent on most other political discussions where we disagreed.
Well two hours in these people claimed to be moderates, and I knew from what they said before they were liberals, maybe even leftist kooks.
So I asked them what Republicans they had voted for in the past for president. They proudly proclaimed they never had.
This couple was old enough to have voted since the Jimmy Carter days. They also had never voted Republican for the Senate either.
So when I asked how they could consider themselves moderate when they only voted for Democrats, they said Republicans were evil, and they were moderate because they voted for a major party, rather than the Socialist Workers Party.
I practically choked on my food when they said that.
They admitted to not being happy with the Democrats, but knew the party they were more closely aligned with politically was the SWP, and they couldn't win. But they were moderate.

Yet from their own warped perspective, they seemed to think they were moderate. Needless to say we got reassigned to another table as quickly as possible. The point being that many a so called moderate is nothing of the sort. Few people, given a litmus test would wind up in the middle.
I agree with the bold. Also would add that so called "Libertarians" get on my nerves as well when they claim they are "independents" or "moderates" yet they hate "liberals" and only vote for Republicans lol. So it goes both ways IMO.

But I personally get called a "leftist" all the time on this forum. I have voted for both Democrats and Republicans in the past. I admit I have never voted for a Republican presidential candidate though because I believe they do too much pandering to get the uber religious, racist vote. But I voted for a republican senator this year and for a republican governor in 2014 and for an independent mayoral candidate (was the only one who didn't win because I live in a union town - even the Republicans here are pro-union - and he was not supportive of unions, I voted for him due to him being a fiscal conservative even though I am pro-union too but IMO you have to be able to afford the unions..)

On liberals and the NBPP I don't know any liberals except black nationalist sympathizers who don't think that both NOI and NBPP are hate groups.
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Old 02-04-2017, 02:48 AM
 
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Give it up. We aren't ever gonna vote for the Republican Party in any real numbers. That horse left the barn years ago.

Let this go Republicans. Go look for another constituency. We've already rejected you, and that ain't gonna change. Move on.
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Old 02-04-2017, 04:46 AM
 
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Give it up. We aren't ever gonna vote for the Republican Party in any real numbers. That horse left the barn years ago.

Let this go Republicans. Go look for another constituency. We've already rejected you, and that ain't gonna change. Move on.
Is Trump and the GOP the answer to the problems that blacks are experiencing? Absolutely not.

Did the fact that the (D)'s took blacks for granted cause Trump to get elected? It played a very large role. So I will ask you, any chance at all that the (D)'s learn from this?

I don't see it happening. If that is the case, are blacks going to just continue to allow themselves to be taken for granted?
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Old 02-04-2017, 05:22 AM
 
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Give it up. We aren't ever gonna vote for the Republican Party in any real numbers. That horse left the barn years ago.

Let this go Republicans. Go look for another constituency. We've already rejected you, and that ain't gonna change. Move on.
"We aren't ever gonna"

And who gave YOU permission to speak for others?

Your righteous attitude thinking YOU DO speak for others is noted and laughable.
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Old 02-04-2017, 05:23 AM
 
Location: Katy,Texas
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Why didn't I notice our local idiot has gone national now. No self respecting Republican in the Houston area should like anything Quanell X says. He embarrasses the black community and Houstonians on the daily, literally every time he gets on TV he spouts nonsense.
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Old 02-04-2017, 06:00 AM
 
Location: Nesconset, NY
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Now I never in my life thought I would ever agree with a Leader of the New Black Panthers, but, here again Trump goes where very few have gone before and........................... Just read this article, it says a lot and gives a guy something to think about.
NBP's Quanell X: Trump Right About Dems Exploiting Black Votes
It's not a compliment to say, "here, again, Trump goes where very few have gone before...". Where he goes a wake of lawsuits and fears of anti-Constitutional, anti-democratic governance follows.
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Old 02-04-2017, 11:53 AM
 
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"Well, if the Republicans want Blacks to vote for them, they better apologize for the southern strategy."

WELL, why don't you come into 2017.

What may or may not have happened 50 or so years ago is NOT relevant now.

" They better purge the party of those who have pandered to bigots or have said bigated things."

When is the dem going to purge the party of those who have pandered to bigots or have said bigated things."?

Gee, it IS easy to through out juvenile insults and charge people of all sorts of things.

It's no wonder people like you do it so much!

"When you have NOTING of VALUE to add, throw out insults!"
1) I'm already in 2017. People like Trent Lott, George Allen, Rick Santorum, Newt Gingrich, Bob McDonnell haven't not joined 2017. And the point is, the Southern Strategy was used. That has not been forgotten.

2) We're talking about if the Republicans want Blacks to vote for them bad enough. No deflection, period.

3) When have I insulted anyone or called anyone names in the post that I made?
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