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Here in Florida, a presence of a gun while committing crimes will land you in prison for a very long time, but to put them to death even if no one was hurt just doesn't make sense.
We ARE talking about THIS case so stop with the "what if's.
IF they had been in jail like they were supposed to be this innocent woman would STILL BE ALIVE.
But, you don't care about her and her family.
You seem to have MORE pity for the crook then the innocent people who are the victims.
I cannot believe how many people are unaware of repeated offenders, not to mention, each crime they commit, gets worse and worse....
This isn't about gun violence, it's about putting criminals away for good, period.
there is something major wrong with our judicial system.
my son who is an officer tells me that repeated offenders are left go too many times to count...not to mention the waste in tax payers money, in the paper work, public defenders, etc....
this country is crazy
"there is something major wrong with our judicial system."
IMO, it is NOT the system, it is the LIBERAL politicians, judges, defense attorneys and parole broads who "abuse" the system.
Maybe it was 'measly', because the crime wasn't that serious. They were thieves, were they not?
Darwin's three priors include: Aggravated battery with great bodily harm; Aggravated unlawful use of a weapon; Stealing and selling a motor vehicle; Felony possession of a firearm.
I don't have his court records, but I'd bet he pled down to those charges.
What does it take in your world for a Darwin to deserve and serve a full sentence.
"there is something major wrong with our judicial system."
IMO, it is NOT the system, it is the LIBERAL politicians, judges, defense attorneys and parole broads who "abuse" the system.
It isn't just that. They are released many times because the system becomes overcrowded and expensive and tax payers have no desire to pay more in taxes to address that.
What's with you ? These guys didn't serve the years they were sentenced to. Take Darwin.
Sentenced to 7 1/2 years in 9/07 [age 17 ?]. Sentenced to 5 years in 4/11. Sentenced to 6 years in 1/13. All involving serious felonies, two involving firearms. [I'd bet anything his convictions were plea deals, his crimes were more serious, and his juvie record is longer than War & Peace.]
So, forget about life sentences. This guy should still have been in prison for his 1st convictions when he committed his second, and still in prison for the 2nd convictions when he committed his 3rd, and still in prison for his 3rd when he committed the murder a few days ago.
Again, I don't know if the biggest problem is sentencing guidelines, inept parole boards, or what. I do know a person with Darwin's history should be someplace other than in the midst of normal people.
Simple math shows that Darwin couldn't possibly have actually served those sentences - the public needs to demand to know WHO let him out and WHY they let him out.
It probably comes down to MONEY at the end of the day. Plea deals and paroles save a lot of MONEY. They cost lives, but they do save time and MONEY.
One challenge in at least some parts of Illinois at present, such as Cook County, is the variability or inconsistency in punishment for [unlawful use of a weapon] cases within the court system. A 2011 analysis by the Chicago Sun-Times of sentences handed down for gun possession in Cook County found that while nearly 75% of defendants were sent to prison, 14% received probation, 6% received boot camp, and 4% community service (Main 2013). A Chicago Tribune analysis of people charged with UUW near Cornell Square Park between 2008 and 2012 found that [b]60% received probation.
Zimring points out that harsh sentences already exist in Illinois for illegally carrying a gun (though they are not mandatory), and that mandatory minimum sentencing policies do not prevent criminals from getting lighter sentences, they just transfer the privilege of discretion from judges to prosecutors.
Forbid plea deals? All cases go before a jury? That is Expensive and just not going to happen.
To really test out the deterrent powers of mandatory minimums, you'd have to forbid plea bargains. Every single case would have to go before a jury, (or, if there's not enough evidence, be dismissed). Every single guilty offender—regardless of age, sex, or other mitigating factors—would have to be sentenced to the mandatory minimum. You'd have to tell juries this fact before they deliberated.
Prosecutors would howl as their conviction rates slowed, pretrial detention levels would balloon, and court costs would explode, but we'd at least have better data on whether mandatory minimum sentencing works.
2013 was the last time that Gun Laws and gun possession sentencing was argued in Illinois - it was because of a similar high profile case just like this one. Despite a few who claim that things are improving and violence is down ..... the data (like 2015, 2016) shows otherwise.
Concealed Carry was passed in Illinois - the last State in the USA to approve a CC Law. It is very strict.
Here in Florida, a presence of a gun while committing crimes will land you in prison for a very long time, but to put them to death even if no one was hurt just doesn't make sense.
It the State of Illinois - a presence of a gun while committing crimes is "yawn" until you do it a couple of times, and then you might get a light sentence & early parole.
Which system do you prefer?
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