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Old 08-29-2016, 11:04 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn, NY
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"He did that with private contracts"

And would do so again.

"and didn't have to deal with red tape."

A President can cut through the red tape. Or didn't you know that?

I recall when San Fran got hit with an earthquake a few years back and a major bridge was put out of service, a private contractor made a deal, let HIM rebuild the bridge WITHOUT all the red tape.

He completed the bridge below budget and BEFORE the deadline.

It passed EVERY inspection and it is STILL in use today.

If a state/city can do it, so can the United States gov't.
Public contracts require contractors to go through an extensive bidding process. On private projects, owners can just choose any contractor without any particular reason other than they just wanted to do. There doesn't have to be any competition. There are no M/WBE requirements. There's no prevailing wage/union requirements.

The only times when anybody can bypass all the red tape is to declare it an emergency contract, such as what happened with the 9/11 cleanup. You get things done quicker this way, but lose out on things being competitively bid. If he can get rid of red tape for all construction projects, a lot more contractors would bid on construction projects. I tell the one I work for to not touch them with a 10 ft pole.

I don't doubt quality control on private projects. That's part of my day to day job actually. I just doubt the ability of a president to change the mindset of all the government employees.
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Old 08-29-2016, 11:07 AM
 
Location: Elsewhere
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"The wall would cost $10B at least.'

Where did you come up with that number? I haven't heard it.
Could probably do it cheaper with Mexican day laborers.
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Old 08-29-2016, 11:10 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn, NY
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Could probably do it cheaper with Mexican day laborers.
Yes, but I don't see Trump turning his back on his blue collar supporters. And besides, any fedeally funded contract requires workers to be paid prevailing wage.
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Old 08-29-2016, 11:14 AM
 
Location: Elsewhere
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Yes, but I don't see Trump turning his back on his blue collar supporters. And besides, any fedeally funded contract requires workers to be paid prevailing wage.
I'm aware, spent a good chunk of my life in public procurement. As a matter of fact, chatted with Mr. Trump on the phone a couple of years ago about a project in which he'd shown an interest.

Was just taking a stab at humor.
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Old 08-29-2016, 11:19 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn, NY
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I'm aware, spent a good chunk of my life in public procurement. As a matter of fact, chatted with Mr. Trump on the phone a couple of years ago about a project in which he'd showed an interest.

Was just taking a stab at humor.
Hard to tell on the Internet.

And it's not like he hasn't gone non-union before, which made me think you were possibly serious!
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Old 08-29-2016, 11:30 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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He already has told everyone how the wall will be paid for. It's been on his website for a very long time. In case anyone has missed it, it is under the title:

COMPELLING MEXICO TO PAY FOR THE WALL

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions/pay-for-the-wall
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Old 08-29-2016, 12:16 PM
 
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He already has told everyone how the wall will be paid for. It's been on his website for a very long time. In case anyone has missed it, it is under the title:

COMPELLING MEXICO TO PAY FOR THE WALL

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions/pay-for-the-wall
What an idiot.
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Old 08-29-2016, 12:49 PM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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Both parties have been telling us securing the border is such a mission impossible. That is the biggest lie.

We don't need a wall, we need military to secure the border. We already have a military, and we are paying our service members anyway. Put them to work already. Have them securing the border.

Money to build the wall? Well, if you think this is a good solution, think about this,

The $720 million figure breaks down into $280 million a day from Iraq war supplementary funding bills passed by Congress, plus $440 million daily in incurred, but unpaid, long-term costs

Let's not vote another war hawk (which is definitely Hillary clinton)
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Old 08-29-2016, 12:59 PM
 
Location: Secure Bunker
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Idiocy...Mexico has ladders....
The 'ladders' retort is nonsense. San Diego built a fence and it reduced illegal crossings in that area by over 90%. I was there before and after the fence and believe me, it worked.

San Diego Fence Provides Lessons in Border Control : NPR
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Old 08-29-2016, 01:03 PM
 
Location: Tennessee
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What an idiot.
You mean that a businessman can come up with assorted ways to pay for things that don't involve raising taxes?
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