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If this country lived up to the principles of the flag and national anthem, there would be no need to protest. And frankly, half the moaners and groaners about this issue couldn't intelligently interpret the national anthe. It's a knee jerk reaction, with the emphasis on the word jerk.
Its funny how the Tea Party, the Bundys and everyone else can protest, but the minute a person of color does it, its a problem. People act as if standing for the national anthem is some time honored tradition. No one stood for it until 2009. The NFL decided it was good for business and has been paid quite a bit of money to have patriotic ceremonies. So get outta here, with the patriotic BS. I applaud him for taking a stand. No one liked Ali when he took a stand either, he was reviled by many.
And to the OP he is not Muslim, but if he were, so what? it doesnt change what he is protesting.
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I have no idea where you got the bolded from but it's false.
pknopp is right, the rubbish about no one standing before 2009 is just that, pure rubbish. when i was a young lad going to football games in the late 60s EVERYONE stood for the national anthem, and i can pretty much guarantee you that people have stood for the national anthem, when it was first introduced as the national anthem in 1931 by an act of congress.
He sacrificed lots of dollars for his beliefs. What have you ever sacrificed for your beliefs. What has your candidate, have you ever read the constitution, would you like me to send you mine ?
Also if more Christians were actually living the example of Christ, he would never have converted. More examples of grace, justice, love of neighbor and of the stranger he would never have looked elsewhere.
So let me get this straight. You're saying that it's the fault of Christians that someone converts to Islam? Wow, that's a reach.
He hasn't been released and as far as I know, he hasn't lost any endorsements - so how do you reach the conclusion that he's sacrificed a lot of dollars for his beliefs? Why are you asking about "candidates?" Candidates for what? Why would you send someone your copy of some Constitution (not clear exactly what Constitution you're talking about.)
I also only have to provide one example (and I can provide more) to show even that is a bogus claim. (video at end) (Sorry, I guess you have to click to go to YouTube)
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Oh yeah, I've posted that in multiple threads and really didn't get a response. I wonder why that is??
I boo the presidents actions in so many ways. The stupid wars, the give aways to the pharmaceutical and insurance industries. The bending over for Wall Street, etc. I fully support the protest here because all of that is also a part of it.
It was easy. There is nothing "improper" about his means of protest.
Are you not saying he should protest in a "proper" manner? Or what you see as a proper manner?
What is the protest against? Is it against what the flag stands for?
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Originally Posted by phetaroi
Yes.
If this country lived up to the principles of the flag and national anthem, there would be no need to protest. And frankly, half the moaners and groaners about this issue couldn't intelligently interpret the national anthe. It's a knee jerk reaction, with the emphasis on the word jerk.
Agareed. They ought to protest the failure of the country (administration, government, leaders) to live up the the principles, not protest the emblem/symbol that represents those principles and holds them high as a reminder to all. It is a reminder of the ideal, and motivator to keep aiming for the goal.
Many posters here seem to be missing that fine point.
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