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Old 08-29-2016, 08:06 PM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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MAY NOT:
8.Contribute to the Presidential Campaign Fund on their tax return
9.Join the armed forces and defend their country
10.Say the Pledge of Allegiance
11.Salute the flag
12.Vote
13.Run for leadership in their organization. (JW’s are ‘appointed’ and invited to be leaders.)
14.Run for leadership in any organization 15.Take a stand for any political issue inside their organization
16.Take a stand on any political or ‘worldly’ issue outside of their organization
17.Campaign for a political candidate
18.Hold political office
19.Discuss politics
20.Be a union steward or shop steward
21.Actively be involved in a union strike
22.Use a gun for protection against humans
23.Become a police officer if a gun is required
24.Wear military uniforms or clothing associated with war

non voters: 321,773,600 in the USA.... oh J-Witness
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Old 08-29-2016, 08:06 PM
 
Location: Twin Cities (StP)
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I don't disagree with you.

But overwhelming majority of service members would give their life to protect the country, even if it is an imperfect place. They carry on traditions of duty, honor, brotherhood, and dedication to country that are sadly lacking in many quarters of our society.

So, in my opinion, yes, they do protect my freedom. I certainly don't want to live in a country with no military.

Maybe some do.
I agree, service members do have those characteristics, but that doesn't mean they are protecting our freedoms because as we both agreed, our freedoms haven't been in jeopardy for about 150 years.

I think Stan Goff says it perfectly...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8rbHwMXMT8
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Old 08-29-2016, 08:10 PM
 
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So clueless it defies understanding.

Now a war crimes trial is like the police shooting someone and one dead child is better than several or more.

How nice of you to quantify the dead all by yourself.

Btw, it wasn't one dead child in the USA murdered by criminals, it was a lot more, you just can't see past the sports figures.

I never mentioned Wade, you came up with that all by yourself. Figures.

I bet you say better two Nuns who were also Nurse Practitioners killed rather than the Doctor eh?
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Old 08-29-2016, 08:11 PM
 
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yes...
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Old 08-29-2016, 08:12 PM
 
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yes indeed
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Old 08-29-2016, 08:14 PM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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Despite a U.S. Supreme Court ruling in 1961, saying states may not maintain a “religious test” for holding public office, seven states still have laws on the books banning atheists and non-believers from serving.
According to the New York Times, people who do not believe in God are ineligible to hold office in Maryland, Arkansas, Mississippi, North Carolina, South Carolina, Tennessee, and Texas.



coin has two sides
I don't agree but we have our freedom and that we have to stand behind-
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Old 08-29-2016, 08:15 PM
 
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So clueless it defies understanding.

Now a war crimes trial is like the police shooting someone and one dead child is better than several or more.

How nice of you to quantify the dead all by yourself.

Btw, it wasn't one dead child in the USA murdered by criminals, it was a lot more, you just can't see past the sports figures.

I never mentioned Wade, you came up with that all by yourself. Figures.

I bet you say better two Nuns who were also Nurse Practitioners killed rather than the Doctor eh?
You didn't mention any dead children. I did.
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Old 08-29-2016, 08:16 PM
 
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One dead child might be less a tragedy (overall) than many but how is one dead child better than many?

Where does the person who thinks that way even come from?
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Old 08-29-2016, 08:17 PM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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I agree, service members do have those characteristics, but that doesn't mean they are protecting our freedoms because as we both agreed, our freedoms haven't been in jeopardy for about 150 years.

I think Stan Goff says it perfectly...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8rbHwMXMT8
Historically the purpose of the military has been to defend our nation’s borders against invasion and external attack. So no matter what you (the general term you) say, we still need our beloved military, our defense team, our guardian angels.

I have a friend who graduated from West Point Academy. He quitted his military career for whatever the reasons. He still believed overwhelming majority of the service members (especially those combat ones) are brave patriotic Americans who will put their live on the line to defend the country.

Plus, most of us can not comprehend the amount of courage it takes to run towards the bullets, to be able to lay down your life for another.

Over time, our enemies may have changed, but the heroism displayed by our military never has. Our troops have protected us and defended our national security repeatedly and consistently.
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Old 08-29-2016, 08:17 PM
 
Location: TUS/PDX
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People go to football games to relax and enjoy themselves not to think about civil rights. That should be ok with you and Colon right? or should we be required to meditate on civil rights every waking moment? would you back a actor right in the middle of a scene giving a tear jerking speech of the plight of the black man in the US when it has nothing to do with the movie?

None of this will mean anything in a week or two when the 49ers cut Colon not because he is black or his stunt but because he stinks. Of course Colon will scream racism but the truth is the 49ers tried to trade him but no team wanted him because he stinks.
Thanks for proving my point about not understanding nuance, after all equating a silent protest during 90 second rendition of the national anthem is pretty much the same as meditating "on civil rights every waking moment"
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